Let's take a trip..

[ManInBlue]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

Your theory is flawed. Shame on the umpire (PU or BU) who is so inattentive he doesn't know the situation when there is a short stoppage in play. Keep your head in the game next time.

I don't see the correlation. What does a brain fart have to do with his theory? His theory sounds logical and well thought out to me. Yes, we should be attentive to the situation, location of runners etc. However, that wasn't the point of my question. And keep in mind - no one said it happened. It was, as stated, a third world play.

mbyron - I hadn't thought of it that way.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by ManInBlue

mbyron - I hadn't thought of it that way.

How were you thinking of it? I've thought of some variations, such as putting the runners (or their subs) back on their bases, awarding the batter 1B, and moving the runners up because they're forced to advance by the award. Takes both runs off the board that way.

Depending on the quality of the batter's base hit, this solution might be superior.

[ManInBlue]

Originally Posted by mbyron

How were you thinking of it?

I couldn't make anything make sense, and I just stopped trying to figure it out - if we're being honest about it.

When he asked me, I said, "Well, hell, I don't know" He said, "Well it might just happen in this game, so pay attention." Then he jogged to first base. Jackass

Nothing jumped up quite as simple, nor as easy, as your solution.

[Rich Ives]

I stopped reading when I got to:

"No one notices (umpires, coaches, Mom...no one). "

[ManInBlue]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

I stopped reading when I got to:

"No one notices (umpires, coaches, Mom...no one). "

Your choice. Although, you have a good grasp of the rules and I'd be interested to know your take on the sitch.

I had to add that because it seems like someone's mother notices everything

[justanotherblue]

I'm thinking I got time, both runners and coach are ejected for unsportsman like conduct, put the batter back to the plate with two new baserunners, I'm not going to allow a run for cheating, with at least a 0-1 count.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by justanotherblue

I'm thinking I got time, both runners and coach are ejected for unsportsman like conduct, put the batter back to the plate with two new baserunners, I'm not going to allow a run for cheating, with at least a 0-1 count.

By what rule will you take away the batter's hit? Nothing illegal about the hit.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by ManInBlue

Your choice. Although, you have a good grasp of the rules and I'd be interested to know your take on the sitch.

I had to add that because it seems like someone's mother notices everything

Toss the manager.

If the players are over 10 toss the players. Put the subs back where they should be.

Do a do-over. Ball was illegally put in play because the runners were not on their legal base (9.01(c) adaptation of 5.09(e))

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by ManInBlue

I don't see the correlation.

It was, as stated, a third world play.

Third world plays happen to third world umpires.

[HokieUmp]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

Third world plays happen to third world umpires.

Really? Is baseball that well played where you're at? Or do we have different definitions of what constitutes "third world" baseball?

I don't know that I've had plays of the type that get posted here, but I've had plenty of games where players didn't know their a$$ from their elbow, never mind what plays to make. In some games I've had, I've felt like it's a game of 18-on-2; a textbook example of why God gave man the concept of time - so we could invent the time-limit rule.

So how does it become the umpires fault when crap like that goes down? We can't coach 'em, and can't berate 'em, so where does that leave the umpire?