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[Umpmazza]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

The only one I read about in the 2010 CCA was asking umpires to look at check swing appeals with the three umpire crew and going to the umpire on the line versus the umpire that might be in B or C. This was something that they might change.

If so, I wasted $20 on the 2010 CCA. Bummer.

They also changed fly ball responsibility...U1 now is the QB in the 3-man...

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by Umpmazza

They also changed fly ball responsibility...U1 Know is the QB in the 3-man...

They didn't change the check swing mechanic in this year's book.

Yes, I did read the new QB portion though.

[Durham]

U1 as the qb is a MiLB thing and a good change IMO, there is a push by some to allow U2 an option with R1 so he could be in B or C and a few guys I work with would like to see them add another MiLB mechanic that we use, with R1 and U1 out on a trouble ball, allow the PU to come up to 1B and have U2 hold at the cutout at 2B. That way we maintain having an umpire ahead of the runner and the PU isn't really doing anything onthis play any way and he has a great look at the tag up at 1B. He is also in a great spot to take this play if he comes up in foul ground, he can slide either way easily from there and have a great look. There are others, but I would be very happy with those two changes.

As far as CCA two man, I just work what they taught me at Jimmy's. I would have to read that section to see what might be different.

[Umpmazza]

Originally Posted by Durham

U1 as the qb is a MiLB thing and a good change IMO, there is a push by some to allow U2 an option with R1 so he could be in B or C and a few guys I work with would like to see them add another MiLB mechanic that we use, with R1 and U1 out on a trouble ball, allow the PU to come up to 1B and have U2 hold at the cutout at 2B. That way we maintain having an umpire ahead of the runner and the PU isn't really doing anything onthis play any way and he has a great look at the tag up at 1B. He is also in a great spot to take this play if he comes up in foul ground, he can slide either way easily from there and have a great look. There are others, but I would be very happy with those two changes.

As far as CCA two man, I just work what they taught me at Jimmy's. I would have to read that section to see what might be different.

On this play with the PU going up the 1st base line, he isnt going to need to get all the way, unless he reads a play there... and if the ball gets down U3 would be able to move over to 3rd to cover this play ( almost like a reverse mechanic) and then Pu can turn around a get home for a play at the plate.. not a bad Idea.

[Durham]

Originally Posted by Umpmazza

On this play with the PU going up the 1st base line, he isnt going to need to get all the way, unless he reads a play there... and if the ball gets down U3 would be able to move over to 3rd to cover this play ( almost like a reverse mechanic) and then Pu can turn around a get home for a play at the plate.. not a bad Idea.

It sure isn't, and luck for me, i get to work with guys a lot smarter than me that love to talk about and share these types of nuggets. Everyone keeps umpiring on every play and noone has to work a lot harder, ie U2 moving over to 1B and then to 2B and then to 3B while the PU chills out.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Durham

U1 as the qb is a MiLB thing and a good change IMO, there is a push by some to allow U2 an option with R1 so he could be in B or C

That's already allowed (with a RH batter). They won't change it with a LH batter unless they also change the "half swing" mechanic to go to the person on the line.

[Durham]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

That's already allowed (with a RH batter). They won't change it with a LH batter unless they also change the "half swing" mechanic to go to the person on the line.

And this is the number 1 reason I support the guy taking it on the line. So, U2 can have an option, but to be honest, there is a push for an option even if they don't change the check swing. We took a vote in a confeence meeting, coordinator asked after discussion how many wanted an option, and almost every, if not every hand went up.

[Umpmazza]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

That's already allowed (with a RH batter). They won't change it with a LH batter unless they also change the "half swing" mechanic to go to the person on the line.

in the CCA it was a change this year..U1 no is the umpire who decides/ make the decision if he goes out..the reason is U3 is already coming, so If U1 goes out, you still have a umpire in front.. CCA adopted it this year.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Umpmazza

in the CCA it was a change this year..U1 no is the umpire who decides/ make the decision if he goes out..the reason is U3 is already coming, so If U1 goes out, you still have a umpire in front.. CCA adopted it this year.

This is the way we've (locally) *always* done 3-person. U3 can always adjust and read off the U1 -- if the U1 goes out, U3 comes up. If the U1 starts in, the U3 can adjust and go out. It doesn't work the other way.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Umpmazza

in the CCA it was a change this year..U1 no is the umpire who decides/ make the decision if he goes out..the reason is U3 is already coming, so If U1 goes out, you still have a umpire in front.. CCA adopted it this year.

The change you mention (who is the "quarterback") is a change this year. I agree.

That's not what was being discussed in the conversation you quoted -- that conversation had to do with U3's positioning with R1 only.

(to be fair, I quoted both parts of a previous post, even though I only responded to the second part. I could have been more clear.)