Baseball interpretation...

[Andy]

I believe there is an interpretation in baseball that says if a fly ball lands beyond an imaginary line between first and third, but still in the infield, then rolls into foul territory between home and first or home and third without being touched that it is considered a fair ball.

Is this correct?

If so, what ruleset or code declares this interp?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by andy

i believe there is an interpretation in baseball that says if a fly ball lands beyond an imaginary line between first and third, but still in the infield, then rolls into foul territory between home and first or home and third without being touched that it is considered a fair ball.

Is this correct?

If so, what ruleset or code declares this interp?

fed.

[jicecone]

FED 2.5.1.b ' A fair ball is a batted ball which contacts fair ground on or beyond an imaginary line between first and third base"

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by jicecone

FED 2.5.1.b ' A fair ball is a batted ball which contacts fair ground on or beyond an imaginary line between first and third base"

I have it as 2-5-1b (dashes for rules; dots for cases).

[jicecone]

How silly of me, getting those dashes and dots mixed up. I will restrict myself to the bench!

T H A N K . Y O U. B...... O ------B

[Kevin Finnerty]

Are you going to allow that, Bob?

[dash_riprock]

At least shut off his smiley function.

[Andy]

Thank you, gentlemen.....

I appreciate the rule citation as well.

[greymule]

A few years ago, some posters on this board insisted that the Fed rule applied in OBR as well. One poster claimed some sort of inside knowledge that the Fed rule had been written simply to put in black and white what had been widely accepted throughout baseball for many years. As I remember, he said that he had supporting communication from Jaksa or Roder that OBR's wording of "first falls on fair territory on or beyond first base or third base" was interpreted to mean past the 1B-3B imaginary line.

So either those posters aren't frequenting this board any longer, or they realized at some point since then that they had gotten it wrong.

In baseball, I've never seen a pop fall untouched behind the 1B-3B line and then bounce foul between home and 1B or home and 3B. It would be most likely to happen on a ball that fell close to 1B or 3B. I've seen it a few times on the smaller, dirt infields of softball, though. In softball, such a ball is foul, even in Fed.

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

Are you going to allow that, Bob?

There you go Kevin, trying to stir the pot.


PS Dash

[johnnyg08]

The closest I've ever seen is a pop up that ended up falling on top of the mound and had enough side spin to spin foul untouched by anybody...foul ball. That's the closest I've seen.

[GerryB]

The NASO College Baseball Rules Study Guide (09-10) mentions for the purposes of determining when a ball has passed first or third "visualize a line between first and third" (pg. 20 2e, also play 2-2). Obviously not an official source, but I think valid.

I've always gone by this in OBR games as well.