The Darkest of the Darkside

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by Tim C

I cannot picture a "Bobby Cox" moment IF I select to take on this task.

Regards,

I hope that you reflect on your body of work and choose to go out as an umpire.

[PeteBooth]

Tee should NOT go out and talk to the officials as an umpire but as a COACH. Tee can speak for himself but IMO he was referring to the MANNER in which he might come out and talk to the officials and that MANNER is not Bobby Cox like who holds the record for getting tossed. That IMO is what Tee was referring to.

I believe most of us do not want a coach giving us an "umpire lecture" out there on the field similar to us as officials telling a coach how to coach his team.

As I stated in a previous post, each particpant in the game has a separate and distinct function. If Tee does decide to take the coaching job his job is that of a COACH and not an umpire. If he does in fact request TIME and talk to the officials he talks to them in a civil tone (which I believe Tee would) BUT talks to them as a coach NOT an umpire. Obviously it can help your team when you are an umpire and KNOW the rules, BUT the bottom line is you are now the COACH with a different role.

Pete Booth

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

Tee should NOT go out and talk to the officials as an umpire but as a COACH. Tee can speak for himself but IMO he was referring to the MANNER in which he might come out and talk to the officials and that MANNER is not Bobby Cox like who holds the record for getting tossed. That IMO is what Tee was referring to.

I believe most of us do not want a coach giving us an "umpire lecture" out there on the field similar to us as officials telling a coach how to coach his team.

As I stated in a previous post, each particpant in the game has a separate and distinct function. If Tee does decide to take the coaching job his job is that of a COACH and not an umpire. If he does in fact request TIME and talk to the officials he talks to them in a civil tone (which I believe Tee would) BUT talks to them as a coach NOT an umpire. Obviously it can help your team when you are an umpire and KNOW the rules, BUT the bottom line is you are now the COACH with a different role.

Pete Booth

In was not referring to Tee "going out" on the umpires. I interpreted his post as saying he had not yet decided to take the coaching position. Tee's reputation is based on an incredibly solid body of work as an umpire and I was just voicing my hope that he when he left baseball, it would be as an umpire, not a coach.

[Tim C]

"Tee's reputation is based on an incredibly solid body of work as an umpire and I was just voicing my hope that he when he left baseball, it would be as an umpire, not a coach."

Maybe I should be smart enough to listen to those who give great advice.

Thanks.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Quote:
"Tee's reputation is based on an incredibly solid body of work as an umpire and I was just voicing my hope that he when he left baseball, it would be as an umpire, not a coach."

Originally Posted by Tim C

Maybe I should be smart enough to listen to those who give great advice.

Thanks.

Baseball men never leave baseball.

[Tim C]

"Tee is retiring for other reasons, which I hate to hear about."

John:

I thought I was crystal clear in "why" I retired from active umpiring:

I strongly dislike umpiring games.

Each year for the last four years I have worked fewer games each year in an attempt to enjoy wasting from 3 to 4 hours a day to work games.

Let me explain that last statement:

I feel that umpires need to have both a well thoughtout and complete pregame meeting with their partners. I also believe that there is a great opportunity to teach umpiring by post game conversations. Add to that travel during rush hour in the PDX area the committment of time (mostly away from my job) AND the fact that parents attend games things just quit being enjoyable.

John, I have also made it clear that I am applying for a "Lifetime Membership" with my local association. If I am elected to that prestigious membership then I can do everything if my local group (teach, evaluate, be a board member, etc.) with the exception of umpiring games.

This has to be a "win-win", right? Why on earth would anyone "question" when ANYONE retires at the top of their game rather than waiting until they make a joke of themselves?

As I said before: "It is much better to retire two years too early rather than one year too late!"

Respectfully,