Batter Interference

[yo...blue...]

Food for thought...

1. As the Plate Umpire, if you think the batter may wind up involved in the play, in one way or the other, do you toss him out of the way? Or do nothing?

2. As the Base Umpire, if your certain of interference on this play, do you call it right away, even if your partner misses it? If your partner calls it, do you echo it?

3. Is there an order of importance between proper mechanics and rules knowledge? Or is it just a matter of "get-it-right"? My opinion... somebody with rules knowledge, but no mechanics training, cannot effectively umpire(Tim McCarver). Somebody with proper mechanics training, but poor rules knowledge, can generally get by longer.

4. What the heck is "the c-slot"? This should be fun for all you perverts.

[UmpTTS43]

Originally Posted by mbyron

The batter has nothing better to do here than to pay attention to where the ball is and to get out of the way. If he fails to do so, he's guilty of interference whether or not he intentionally hinders the defense.

I disagree. It is not the batter's job to find a misplayed/pitched ball. As long as the batter vacates the area and does not intentionally interfere with the throw, he is good. I do not know of a rule that would support your claim.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by yo...blue...

Food for thought...

1. As the Plate Umpire, if you think the batter may wind up involved in the play, in one way or the other, do you toss him out of the way? Or do nothing?

2. As the Base Umpire, if your certain of interference on this play, do you call it right away, even if your partner misses it? If your partner calls it, do you echo it?

3. Is there an order of importance between proper mechanics and rules knowledge? Or is it just a matter of "get-it-right"? My opinion... somebody with rules knowledge, but no mechanics training, cannot effectively umpire(Tim McCarver). Somebody with proper mechanics training, but poor rules knowledge, can generally get by longer.

4. What the heck is "the c-slot"? This should be fun for all you perverts.

Originally Posted by Highest Quality

Let the players play.



A great question, one that may depend on your relationship with the PU, your own credibility and expertise as well and your ability to explain your "overcall" when questioned.

Entirely dependent on the level of baseball i.e. the level of baseball umpiring knowledge of the players and coaches.





Ah, The Scent Of Women.........

All of your answers are equally as full of crap as the questions he asked. Are you two one and the same? Or cousins?

[Welpe]

Steve I think that is a safe assumption. Mr. Multiple Personalities must've returned.

[Kleff]

Thanks to everyone who responded, I still a little unsure how I will rule in the future based on some of these answers(batters intnent, bad throw from catcher will haveto play apart) I'll have to read 7.09c and 7.11a little closer

In hindsight I guess I should have waited for PU to ask me my opinion before I offered mine. I guess the only person who really knows why he was walking out there would be the PU himself??
Once again I apoligize for my post yesterday

Thanks
Mike

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by Highest Quality

Let the players play by themselves.

Here's yet another of those lame answers that shows us all exactly what level of poser that we're dealing with here.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by Highest Quality

Keep in mind that these situations are difficult in person and more so to assess on a text driven forum. Weed out the answers which appear to be less than flexible in responding to you.

Good luck!

And good luck to any person with a respect for the English language. Read this poser's prattle:

"... in person and more so" ??

" ... the answers which appear" ??

... Answers that are "less than flexible" ??

[yo...blue...]

Why are my questions "full of crap"?

1. When is it appropriate to move a player out of the way of an impending play?

2. Is there a different level of importance between mechanics and rules?

3. Is it correct to call interference even is it's not in you coverage?

4. Does anybody left around here have a sense of humor?

And SDS, if the only thing you have to say is I'm full of crap, please refrain from joining the conversation. This is an Umpire Forum, not Anti-Umpire Forum. I've posed legitimate questions that I think can get a good conversation going. If I asked you one of these questions after one of the 300 (yes 300) games I do a year, and you told me I'm full of crap, I think we'd have a problem. Now cut the crap and stop bashing everybody that has a question.

And no, I'm not anybody else on this forum.

[UmpJM]

yo...blue,

Originally Posted by yo...blue...

Why are my questions "full of crap"?

I'm guessing it's because you implied that Tim McCarver had "good rules knowledge".

Once you make an assertion that absurd, nobody is going to take what you say seriously.

1. When is it appropriate to move a player out of the way of an impending play?

Never. Umpires observe play and communicate the result. They are not there to affect play.

2. Is there a different level of importance between mechanics and rules?

No, they are both equally important to competent umpiring.

3. Is it correct to call interference even is it's not in you coverage?

Generally, interference is a "shared responsibility" call - any umpire who sees it may call it. I would say a 6.06(c) violation (which Kleff's OP was NOT) would be an exception and a call reserved for the PU.

4. Does anybody left around here have a sense of humor?

In reference to your question 1, if a participant gets in your way, simply knock him down (if you're bigger) or trip him (if he is).

JM

[Paul L]

Originally Posted by yo...blue...

1. When is it appropriate to move a player out of the way of an impending play?

2. Is there a different level of importance between mechanics and rules?

3. Is it correct to call interference even is it's not in you coverage?

4. Does anybody left around here have a sense of humor?

My answers:

1. Never. Players play, umpires umpire. Let coaches coach.

2. No. Both are prerequisites. To bake bread, you need both flour and an oven.

3. Rarely. How can you be certain that all the elements of interference were present when your partner, whose call it was and who had a better view of it than you, didn't call it? The chances are better that you will get it wrong than your partner, and the egg on your face will smell rotten.

4. Yes.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by yo...blue...

Why are my questions "full of crap"?

1. When is it appropriate to move a player out of the way of an impending play?

Maybe when the players are less than, say, 10 years old.

Otherwise, I generally agree with the other posters.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by yo...blue...

Why are my questions "full of crap"?

1. When is it appropriate to move a player out of the way of an impending play?

2. Is there a different level of importance between mechanics and rules?

3. Is it correct to call interference even is it's not in you coverage?

4. Does anybody left around here have a sense of humor?

And SDS, if the only thing you have to say is I'm full of crap, please refrain from joining the conversation. This is an Umpire Forum, not Anti-Umpire Forum. I've posed legitimate questions that I think can get a good conversation going. If I asked you one of these questions after one of the 300 (yes 300) games I do a year, and you told me I'm full of crap, I think we'd have a problem. Now cut the crap and stop bashing everybody that has a question.

And no, I'm not anybody else on this forum.

Wow 300 games a year. At that rate you will pass me by in about 12 years. JM had it right. Once you mentioned Tim McCarver and rules knowledge in the same sentence, you lost your credibility.

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by yo...blue...

Why are my questions "full of crap"?
I've posed legitimate questions that I think can get a good conversation going. If I asked you one of these questions after one of the 300 (yes 300) games I do a year, and you told me I'm full of crap, I think we'd have a problem. Now cut the crap and stop bashing everybody that has a question.

And no, I'm not anybody else on this forum.

Yo blue. if your doing 300 games a year for lets say 2-3 years and have to ask these questions then you are suspect. If this is your first year and you did 300 then maby we could understand.

[Kevin Finnerty]

How many associations do you need to join to do 300 games a year?

[Forest Ump]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

How many associations do you need to join to do 300 games a year?

In this guys case, that would be 300.