Too Many Ejection Clips

[Matt]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Okay, I just saw the replay that my wife was talking about prior to the start of today's Padres/Mets game. It was from the 3rd base dugout camera with a zoom lens, and his hand smacked that plate as plain as day, to which Tony Gwynn again said that it was an "obviously blown call."

I saw that one...makes me think that it was a missed call.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

And the Cubs broadcaster then correctly analyzed why the call didn't qualify as a "neighborhood play," since the throw drew F4 off the base.

Admittedly I'm biased, but Len Kasper seems to get it right more often than not. It was a poor call..........


Tim.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by nopachunts

Can you post a link to the video?

The story and the video (which is pretty conclusive, really. I don't see how any umpire among us here could come up with a different conclusion after watching this):

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | NYN@SD: Black is ejected arguing a play at the plate - Video | padres.com: Multimedia

[jwwashburn]

He had to have not been looking at home plate.

That was really bad.

[Bishopcolle]

Ow!!!

[TussAgee11]

Goodness gracious... something is up these days.

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | FLA@PHI: Victorino is ejected from the game - Video | phillies.com: Multimedia

[tballump]

Oh yes, dog days of August. Just another way of showing up an umpire and not getting away with it. These are always the ones that the players, coaches, and managers will say, they didn't do anything like bump the ump or cuss the ump. They love to do the hand motions and chirp from the dugout which makes the umpire look like the bad guy and they expect to get away with it. Guess it didn't work.
This is why they are called rats, and no matter how well a player may act towards all umpires most of the time or to you personally, eventually there will be that defining moment when it will become him or you and who do you think they are going to try and make look bad. Themselves, wrong. Umpiring is an adversarial role, so never let your guard down or turn your back.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

Goodness gracious... something is up these days.

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | FLA@PHI: Victorino is ejected from the game - Video | phillies.com: Multimedia

Combination of the heat and a big rat in center field waving his arms once too many times I guess. Of course the Phiily Faithful homers, er...broadcasters thought it was ridiculous. I wonder what they would do if we stood around them all day and raised our arms in disbelief of the things that they say, trying to incite the crowd against them.

Eddie Rap is one fine umpire, at least they got that part right. Victorino was probably mouthing off earlier. I'm sure it wasn't his first gesture of the day, and he is right in Eddie's sight all day long.

[MichaelVA2000]

Originally Posted by Ump153

So to make a point about today's umpire's you use a clip from 1972.

I thought "today's" umpire's watching ejection clips was the topic. Guess I missed the part where time frame limitations were set on materials that could be introduced.

[jwwashburn]

Eddie Murray was not playing in 1972

[johnnyg08]

Some of the Weaver clips are some of the best out there you tube has a few of the really good ones...even w/ audio on a few of them

[constable]

I find the ejection clips on MLB dot com and youtube are beneficial and humorous.

You can learn from watching some of the best umpires in the world how to handle situations, and how not to handle situations. You can learn from their good calls just as well as their mistakes. We can learn from watching their ejections.

Plus, I for one find it hilarious for a manager or player to get what they've earned.

Finally, who can argue with the comedic value of these clips? From Haller's famed " Ha Boom!" and " you're gonna be in the hall of fame for ****in' up world series" and Joe West stare down from a week ago, they make for cheap entertainment.

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by constable

they make for cheap entertainment.

And it definitely seems as though many, are easily entertained here.

[gordon30307]

Originally Posted by constable

I find the ejection clips on MLB dot com and youtube are beneficial and humorous.

You can learn from watching some of the best umpires in the world how to handle situations, and how not to handle situations. You can learn from their good calls just as well as their mistakes. We can learn from watching their ejections.

Plus, I for one find it hilarious for a manager or player to get what they've earned.

Finally, who can argue with the comedic value of these clips? From Haller's famed " Ha Boom!" and " you're gonna be in the hall of fame for ****in' up world series" and Joe West stare down from a week ago, they make for cheap entertainment.

These are professionals dealing with professionals. As amateurs which 99% of us are it's not always a good idea to emulate what they do. eg. The skipper comes out Joe what the f**k you got? Professional acceptable High School I don't think so.

The other problem with these clips is that we're not privy to the conversation. It's easy to eject. The tough part is knowing what to say and when to say it to keep them in the game. That being said when their behaviour becomes unacceptable dump them.

[GA Umpire]

I see MLB EJ as just entertainment. Mainly b/c you don't know the entire conversation of what got the EJ. Also, once the ejected player/manager is done, none of us should be left to continue talking to him. Our partner should be escorting him immediately and no show to be seen.

To me, the only important part would be what was said/done to earn the EJ. That is the only useful part of the videos b/c everything after that is pure show. Such as the Crawford EJ video, for most of us, once the HC got ejected, he would be escorted away and the umpire would not be yelling back at him like that.

I like watching them just as much as the game. But, I don't see any real value in them. If any would be worth seeing, it would be College ones to see appropriate behavior and actions by the umpires. MLB EJ are entertainment, college/HS ones contain more valuable points.