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BigUmp56 Fri Jul 31, 2009 09:58am
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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 618224)
I have absolutely never called a pitch that far outside a strike. Never.
You just think you haven't....................


Tim.

Ump153 Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:00am
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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 618224)
I have absolutely never called a pitch that far outside a strike, knowlingly.
Fixed that for ya.

Kevin Finnerty Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:09am
I'm in umpiring for different reasons.

jicecone Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:26am
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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 618223)
You should learn more about batting. And at what point in the game do you advise a batter should "take the bat off his shoulder" on a pitch a foot outside?

Two of those pitches were not "borderline," and their being called a strike is a disgrace to umpiring and as illuminated above, should be an embarrassment to any umpire caught on tape calling it.
I know from personal experience and coaching experience that one thing for sure, except by accident, I never made contact with a pitch with the bat on my shoulder. Anyone of those pitches could have been taken to the opposite field. Something a good hitter would know. Something a hitter at that level would know. GO WITH THE PITCH and you control your at bat. Don't let the umpire make the decision for you because if I am doing the dish, I will.

HokieUmp Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:13pm
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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty
I have absolutely never called a pitch that far outside a strike. Never.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty
I'm in umpiring for different reasons.
Does it get all lonely up there on your high horse?

BigUmp56 Fri Jul 31, 2009 01:10pm
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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 618228)
I'm in umpiring for different reasons.
I don't see what the reason you're in umpiring has to do with making a gross miss on an outside pitch. Please connect the dots for me..............


Tim.

cc6 Fri Jul 31, 2009 02:44pm
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Originally Posted by scarolinablue (Post 618204)
You're kidding, right?!? Maybe the first, but the second and third pitches, I'd be embarrassed if I was the PU and saw this video of these strike calls.
Only maybe for the first pitch? I've got a strike all game on that one, and I don't think anybody would question me. It was over the plate. The second one could be called a strike as well- it is hittable by anybody who can go the other way. The third pitch was outside.

JPaco54 Fri Jul 31, 2009 04:34pm
All three were balls
 
I thought a strike had to cover any white portion of the plate. All three of these pitches never hit any white portion of the plate. Most of you state that the first one was or could be called a strike or that if it is hittable it is a strike. Is a hittable ball a strike? It is easy to see from this view but the PU view is a little different. If they are hittable I guess all three are strikes. That is a big hitter with a big bat, I assume the PU thought the same thing, "Just hit the dang thing man"! If it were me and with my lean experience and 50ish eyes I would have 2 balls and 1 stike on the batter, on a good day.

Kevin Finnerty Fri Jul 31, 2009 05:10pm
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Originally Posted by jicecone (Post 618230)
I know from personal experience and coaching experience that one thing for sure, except by accident, I never made contact with a pitch with the bat on my shoulder. Anyone of those pitches could have been taken to the opposite field. Something a good hitter would know. Something a hitter at that level would know. GO WITH THE PITCH and you control your at bat. Don't let the umpire make the decision for you because if I am doing the dish, I will.
Thank you very much for taking me on a little nostalgic trip.

I'm sorry, but we're not from the same part of the world when it comes to the art of batting. It's a great deal more complex than that.

jicecone Fri Jul 31, 2009 05:45pm
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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 618310)
Thank you very much for taking me on a little nostalgic trip.

I'm sorry, but we're not from the same part of the world when it comes to the art of batting. It's a great deal more complex than that.
Yea, yea, yea I forgot, in todays society everyone is a specialist, an expert at "THEIR ART" by the time they are 30. Bored by 40 and burnt out by 50. Don't fool yourself, at 60 I could still out hit a lot of people out there using just the basics. which may just be too complex for you.

Wouldn't need my batting instructor, athletic trainer, physical therapist, phsycologist and agent/lawyer or six pairs of gloves either.

Complex my arse!!!!

MrUmpire Fri Jul 31, 2009 06:23pm
I find it incredible that somehow this board survived its first eight years and two months.:D

jwwashburn Fri Jul 31, 2009 06:47pm
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Originally Posted by jicecone (Post 618213)
And I would be more embarrased as a hitter. He didn't complain about the pitches until the third one and I agree it was outside but, by then he should of known she was calling the pitch in that area and taken the dang bat off his shoulder. Any batter that allows three borderline pitches to go by and stand there and look like he can't wait to get back on defense, don't deserve to stand there long.

Maybe the batter thought, hmm I guess that was a strike(or he usually takes the first pitch)

Then, wow...that seemed outside.

Then the last one was preposterous.

You are actually blaming a batter for not arguing balls and strikes?

The batter deserved to be 3-0 or at worst 2-1.

That umpire is awful.

jwwashburn Fri Jul 31, 2009 06:51pm
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Originally Posted by jicecone (Post 618230)
I know from personal experience and coaching experience that one thing for sure, except by accident, I never made contact with a pitch with the bat on my shoulder. Anyone of those pitches could have been taken to the opposite field. Something a good hitter would know. Something a hitter at that level would know. GO WITH THE PITCH and you control your at bat. Don't let the umpire make the decision for you because if I am doing the dish, I will.
If you call pitches as bad as pitch numbers 2&3 strikes, then you are an awful umpire.

mbyron Fri Jul 31, 2009 06:52pm
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Originally Posted by MrUmpire (Post 618315)
I find it incredible that somehow this board survived its first eight years and two months.:D
The off-season wasn't always this bad. Oh wait... :eek:

jicecone Sat Aug 01, 2009 08:10am
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Originally Posted by MrUmpire (Post 618315)
I find it incredible that somehow this board survived its first eight years and two months.:D
Happy Birthday Baby.

We Be just warming up here. Actually it's been fun.


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