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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 10:01am
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He got two more last night

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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 10:10am
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That's not a story. Half of the umpires on this forum have probably dumped Bobby Cox.
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Looks like Hohn gave Cox tons of rope. Most MLB guys get through about one gesture/sentence and then eject Cox with that bored little "this has happened hundreds of times before" wave.

McCann obviously ran his mouth when he came out again. How stupid can a MLB player be?

To head off what someone will say: If there was barking coming from the dugout by McCann, Hohn had every business going over there.
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 10:14am
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It's sometimes nice to see a MLB umpire struggle with the zone. Makes me feel a little better when I have a tough little league game.
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 10:18am
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Looks like Hohn gave Cox tons of rope. Most MLB guys get through about one gesture/sentence and then eject Cox with that bored little "this has happened hundreds of times before" wave.

McCann obviously ran his mouth when he came out again. How stupid can a MLB player be?

To head off what someone will say: If there was barking coming from the dugout by McCann, Hohn had every business going over there.
Not only that, whoever (don't remember who) was complaining about Hohn working the knee is full of it. Hohn works the scissors, and his knee never touches the ground. I don't know what fault can be found in Hohn's stance.

Cox and McCann both deserved to go, and McCann could have stayed in the game, but instead of dropping the subject, kept it up and got ran.
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 10:27am
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Sure they deserved to go.

Hohn got three Braves in Boston and two in this one.

If he tosses Phil Niekro out of the crowd tonight, I might begin to wonder what his deal-e-o is with Atlanta.
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 10:32am
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Sure they deserved to go.

Hohn got three Braves in Boston and two in this one.

If he tosses Phil Niekro out of the crowd tonight, I might begin to wonder what his deal-e-o is with Atlanta.
Bobby Cox's problem with umpires rubs off on his players. Big shock there.
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In the Boston game, he got Chipper Jones while he was the PU and Jones was livid. I have never seen Jones go off like that. It is at least barely possible that Hohn is not 100% in the right in all of these ejections.

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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 10:50am
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The Atl-Bos game was a classic rat argument. Hohn balled a potential strike 3 and the next pitch goes off the wall. All of a suddent the double was the ump's fault.

Jones was sticking up for his pitcher but he couldn't tell if the pitch was a strike or a ball either.
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 10:53am
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In the Boston game, he got Chipper Jones while he was the third base umpire and Jones was livid. I have never seen Jones go off like that. It is at least barely possible that Hohn is not 100% in the right in all of these ejections.
You *are* still a rat. So a guy is calm 99% of the time and he goes off and it's the *umpire's* fault? Like an F5 can call balls and strikes. Jeez.
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Bobby Cox's problem with umpires rubs off on his players. Big shock there.
This was my exact thought when I saw McCann crying.
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Not only that, whoever (don't remember who) was complaining about Hohn working the knee is full of it. Hohn works the scissors, and his knee never touches the ground. I don't know what fault can be found in Hohn's stance.
I have to jump in here. I was at the game in Milwaukee where Hohn ran two coaches.

He was unsteady in the scissors all night and it looked like his knee was on the ground about 25% of the time - always with a LH batter. On top of that, Hohn was getting into the stance way late -- he was still moving down after the ball had already left F1's hand.

Like any other experienced umpire, Hohn can get away with that when he's on. When he isn't quite on...

I have this problem from time to time. I have to focus on getting locked in earlier from time to time and it makes the job a whole lot easier.
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 11:14am
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I was at that game as well. IMO he was right on both check swings.

I had told my wife before the game that the Brewer's coaches have loose screws. When he run them, she looked at me and smiled.
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I was at that game as well. IMO he was right on both check swings.

I had told my wife before the game that the Brewer's coaches have loose screws. When he run them, she looked at me and smiled.
The first one was a terrible call -- there's no doubt about it -- I was sitting down the first base line and my season ticket partner (who's also a HS/college umpire) and I looked at each other and wondered if this would lead to fireworks. The bat barely flinched. He called it a swinging strike from the plate.

The second call was right, but only because he went to the line umpire.
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 12:11pm
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The first one was a terrible call -- there's no doubt about it -- I was sitting down the first base line and my season ticket partner (who's also a HS/college umpire) and I looked at each other and wondered if this would lead to fireworks. The bat barely flinched. He called it a swinging strike from the plate.

The second call was right, but only because he went to the line umpire.
IMO the batter offered at the pitch but was able to keep the bat back. It is not whether the bat flinches, it's if the batter attempts to swing and that is what I feel he did.

The Brewers were pissed because their pitcher couldn't find the zone for the first couple of innings and then they messed up their chance to score with bases loaded and 1 out. The way the Brewer's hitter performed that night was reason enough to eject those two bench coaches.
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