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Old Wed Jul 29, 2009, 10:02pm
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What about the safe, out, out, call at first last night in the Braves/Marlins game. Hermida hit a single to left, ball back to SS, who looked and fired a shot to 1B. Hermida was asleep, 1b coach asleep, and Hohn asleep as the tag was applied before Hermida got back. Hohn game a great safe sign, then out, then out again. Double play?
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Old Wed Jul 29, 2009, 10:38pm
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In the second inning of the Blue Jays-Mariners game, Bill Welke called a Mariner runner safe at first even though they clearly tagged the runner AND he went off the baseline to avoid the tag. The runner before him reached on a hit by pitch that never actually hit him. I know questionable calls happen, but it was frustrating watching this in what could have been Doc Halladay's last start as a Blue Jay. Guess it happens though. It still seems like a travesty that there are MLB umpires like Bucknor and now apparently Hohn, who probably aren't as good as some AAA umpires but who keep their spot just because they got there first.
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Old Wed Jul 29, 2009, 10:42pm
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I know questionable calls happen, but it was frustrating watching this in what could have been Doc Halladay's last start as a Blue Jay.
Well, now you don't have to worry about that anymore, since Roy ain't going anywhere.
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Old Wed Jul 29, 2009, 10:48pm
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Well, now you don't have to worry about that anymore, since Roy ain't going anywhere.
Our GM JP Ricciardi set the Roy Halladay trading deadline at July 28th, but it's now a day later and some trade rumours continue. It's funny that we are paying our closer something like $15 million for this year and 2010 while he plays for the Chicago Cubs minor league organization, yet we can't keep the best pitcher in the world. I wouldn't mind seeing Doc and Timmy as a 1-2 combo though.
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Old Wed Jul 29, 2009, 10:51pm
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UMPIRE REVOLUTION!

Seriously, these guys are the best of the best.

I was wondering if anybody wanted to comment on how baseball officials have a much different style because baseball is such a different game than basketball, baseball, football? Does anyone think that style of baseball at the MLB level compared to MiLB, NCAA, or FED is a bit more laid back, and as a result, umpires behave much differently?

And if so, wouldn't that mean that an experienced amateur ball official can't really understand what umpiring in MLB is like, and therefore, aren't qualified to critique style and demeanor? The calls are the calls, but it seems lots of criticism from this forum is centered around ways in which things are dealt with, appearance, or mechanics.
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Old Wed Jul 29, 2009, 11:32pm
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What about the safe, out, out, call at first last night in the Braves/Marlins game. Hermida hit a single to left, ball back to SS, who looked and fired a shot to 1B. Hermida was asleep, 1b coach asleep, and Hohn asleep as the tag was applied before Hermida got back. Hohn game a great safe sign, then out, then out again. Double play?
WOW! Very Very awful.

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Remarkably bad. My 6 year old daughter has a better hammer than that.



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Old Wed Jul 29, 2009, 11:43pm
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Thanks, Hohn.
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 12:24am
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UMPIRE REVOLUTION!

Seriously, these guys are the best of the best.

And if so, wouldn't that mean that an experienced amateur ball official can't really understand what umpiring in MLB is like, and therefore, aren't qualified to critique style and demeanor? The calls are the calls, but it seems lots of criticism from this forum is centered around ways in which things are dealt with, appearance, or mechanics.
What a crock.
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 12:27am
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It's funny that we are paying our closer something like $15 million for this year and 2010 while he plays for the Chicago Cubs minor league organization, yet we can't keep the best pitcher in the world.
Sorry, but the best pitchers in the world right now are Mark Buehrle and Tim Lincecum, hands down.
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In Hohn's defense, the first baseman missed Hermida's right leg with the tag and then tagged him on the left leg. His timing was bad, yes, but he got it right. He may not be the best umpire in MLB, but these guys are human just like the rest of us.
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 08:28am
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In Hohn's defense, the first baseman missed Hermida's right leg with the tag and then tagged him on the left leg. His timing was bad, yes, but he got it right. He may not be the best umpire in MLB, but these guys are human just like the rest of us.
I agree with this...We all know he SHOULD have hesitated, made one call on one play, but he IS human, and we have ALL made that type of mistake.....
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 08:35am
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In Hohn's defense, the first baseman missed Hermida's right leg with the tag and then tagged him on the left leg. His timing was bad, yes, but he got it right. He may not be the best umpire in MLB, but these guys are human just like the rest of us.
Who knows why he made a safe call and then two of the worst hammers in the history of baseball but, that explanation seems quite far fetched. It was one sweep tag.

Nice Bracelet, though.
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 08:52am
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In Hohn's defense, the first baseman missed Hermida's right leg with the tag and then tagged him on the left leg. His timing was bad, yes, but he got it right. He may not be the best umpire in MLB, but these guys are human just like the rest of us.
And this is a freaking weird play that probably caught him a bit by surprise. You can find a lot wrong with Hohn without trying to stretch something like this.
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 09:28am
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Be honest, Rich ... Have you ever made two calls on a play that was that quick?
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 09:43am
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I do not recall ever seeing a professional umpire look this bad.

I do not recall the last time I saw a HS umpire look this bad.

Again, it is not just the safe/out/out call but the amateur hammer. Is that his normal hammer? Add that to the ridiculous bracelet and you have one unprofessional umpire.
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