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Old Tue Jul 14, 2009, 11:49am
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Well,

Kevin, I simply intoned that I had never heard of umpires keeping score.

Now I have.

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The BU records Courtesy Runners, Conferences, etc?
This is the second time I have heard of this oddity.

Since in my neck of the woods the PU OWNS the pitcher, catcher and batter it will be high time before any BU leeps track of anything concerning them.

Best of all, during high school season there are no CRs to worry about.
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Old Tue Jul 14, 2009, 11:52am
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Best of all, during high school season there are no CRs to worry about.
Tim,

What?!?!!? No courtesy runners??

That's one of the most effective "slow down" rules in the book!

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Old Tue Jul 14, 2009, 02:41pm
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Tim,

What?!?!!? No courtesy runners??

That's one of the most effective "slow down" rules in the book!

JM
California is not courteous in this respect either. We never adapted any of the "speed up (yeah, right)" rules that NFHS suggests, except we do have the 10 run rule back, I think. Anyone know for sure?
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Old Tue Jul 14, 2009, 03:48pm
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The rules are not so much to speed up the game, but to allow more participation.
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Old Tue Jul 14, 2009, 05:09pm
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Then why does the rule book call them "speed up rules?"
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Old Thu Jul 16, 2009, 09:09am
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California is not courteous in this respect either. We never adapted any of the "speed up (yeah, right)" rules that NFHS suggests, except we do have the 10 run rule back, I think. Anyone know for sure?
Up here in Northern California, about 550 miles from you, we don't use the CR rule and unfortunately the 10 run rule either. I know that doesn't answer your question because we have, I think, three HS sections in this state.
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Old Thu Jul 16, 2009, 11:37am
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Up here in Northern California, about 550 miles from you, we don't use the CR rule and unfortunately the 10 run rule either. I know that doesn't answer your question because we have, I think, three HS sections in this state.
We have 10 sections here in CA.

http://www.cifcs.org/CIFSectionsMap/SECTIO~1.HTM
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Old Thu Jul 16, 2009, 12:11pm
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10, wow!! It is a big state for sure. Thanks for that info.
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Old Thu Jul 16, 2009, 05:21pm
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We have 10 sections here in CA.

Map of CIF Sections
So do the section champions ever play each other? Or are there just multiple "state" champions in CA?
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Old Fri Jul 17, 2009, 02:02am
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So do the section champions ever play each other? Or are there just multiple "state" champions in CA?
Not that I'm aware of. There are only sectional champions in baseball. Football used to have only sectional champions until a few years ago where they went to a bowl system where a team from Northern California plays a team from Southern California in each division. From what I understand, basketball has a tradtional state tournament.
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Old Fri Jul 17, 2009, 03:06pm
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So do the section champions ever play each other? Or are there just multiple "state" champions in CA?
The LA City section winner doesn't even play the Southern Section winner, even though the City Section is right in the middle of the Southern Section and many of the schools play each other in the spring season.
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Old Tue Jul 14, 2009, 06:39pm
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Tim,

What?!?!!? No courtesy runners??

That's one of the most effective "slow down" rules in the book!

JM
No CR's allowed in CT either, UmpJM. No mercy rule either!
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Old Tue Jul 14, 2009, 08:11pm
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I don't, per se, keep score, but when it's the 5th inning and near 10 run lead for somebody I like to know, so I will know when game is over.

Scoreboard operators are pretty good in HS around here, as far as score is concerned. Balls, strikes and outs is another matter on the board, but I keep up with that pretty good.
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Old Wed Jul 15, 2009, 09:55pm
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Tim,

What?!?!!? No courtesy runners??

That's one of the most effective "slow down" rules in the book!

JM
It NEVER speeds up the game. It ALWAYS allows participation from a non-starter. Participation must be the goal.
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Old Thu Jul 16, 2009, 11:09am
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It NEVER speeds up the game. It ALWAYS allows participation from a non-starter. Participation must be the goal.
So when the catcher is on base when the third out is made he ALWAYS is able to run into the dugout, put his gear on, and get back on the field and take the remainder of the warmup pitches within 1 minute timed from the third out?
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