Cards

[refnrev]

Some one put me out of my misery and explain it to me s--l--o--w--l--y. Since I have never given a card in 6 years of VB but plenty in 9 years of soccer I always get the VB procedure mixed up in my head. The only 2 cards I have ever seen given in VB were incorrect. First time the R2 held the card up over the player's head (as in soccer) without consulting R1. The second time R1 gave a coach a red for stomping her foot.... no words or dissent of the call... just a foot stomp while sitting on the bench. Help me.. my soccer instincts always take over in this and I have been too embarrased to ask until now. Thanks in advance.

[jkumpire]

1. In the message you gave,
A. R2 messed up with giving the card.
B. He should have privately showed the card to R1, then told him the player who earned it.
C. The mechanic according to FED is to show the card in front of his body to R1, then use fingers to tell the number.

Then R1 officially assess the card. R2 makes sure it is marked in the book, and the HC is notified.

2. R1 has the right to do what she did, she hit the HC with a card. Her judgment might be questioned, but she might have heard something else as well see the foot, or it was the final step in a process. I wouldn't have hit the HC, and neither would you in the case. She did.

The R2 has it put in the book, and gets to tell the HC she has the seat belt on.


Hope that helps!

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by jkumpire

1. In the message you gave,
A. R2 messed up with giving the card.
B. He should have privately showed the card to R1, then told him the player who earned it.
C. The mechanic according to FED is to show the card in front of his body to R1, then use fingers to tell the number.

Then R1 officially assess the card. R2 makes sure it is marked in the book, and the HC is notified.

2. R1 has the right to do what she did, she hit the HC with a card. Her judgment might be questioned, but she might have heard something else as well see the foot, or it was the final step in a process. I wouldn't have hit the HC, and neither would you in the case. She did.

The R2 has it put in the book, and gets to tell the HC she has the seat belt on.


Hope that helps!

What do you mean when you use the word "privately"?

If, as R2, I have need to request a card, it will not be done secretly, discreetly, or any way other than calmly, openly, and with the same authority I would perform any other duty.

[jkumpire]

I agree with you,

However, that is the procedure according to the FED mechanics manual. I will quote you chapter and verse later!

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by jkumpire

I agree with you,

However, that is the procedure according to the FED mechanics manual. I will quote you chapter and verse later!

The Book of Referee, Chapter F, Verse Procedures 2 ...

"2. When the second referee sees or hears an action or response that necessitates a card, he/she shall move to the offending team’s side of the net and take a few steps onto the court towards the first referee. The second referee holds the card(s) in the middle of his/her chest and indicates verbally the number of the offending player(s) or coach. It is the responsibility of the first referee to immediately administer any card(s) requested by the second referee."

I supposed it depends on your definition of "privately", but nothing about that sounds discreet or secret. Sounds pretty front or center to me.

[refnrev]

No, you've misunderstood the question. In soccer in yellow-caution; 2 yellows- DQ; soft red - DQ; Red DQ. What is the progression and penalties for each. That's where it gets confused with soccer in my head even though I've read it several times. Brain freeze, I guess. Thanks. RR