He Said What?

[tarheelcoach]

When Derek Jeter was called out attempting to steal third base with no one out, he asked third base umpire Marty Foster for a reason.

Jeter thought he was safe. The ball had beaten him there, but he moved his left hand around Scott Rolen's glove and replays showed he touched the bag before Rolen's tag.

"He didn't tag me," Jeter told Foster.

"He didn't have to," Foster said, according to Jeter. "The ball beat you."

Video of the play is here - it certainly looked like he was safe. Video: http://mlb.mlb.com/media/vide...ent_id=5436713

If he really said that, Foster really stepped in it.

Full Article is here.

Girardi ended up getting tossed after taking up the argument.

[briancurtin]

Really?

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

Foster also called Texiera out at home yesterday, even though the C clearly tagged him with an empty glove, and the ball in his bare hand. The Yankee announcers had a field day with that one, questioning whether MLB now had 'electricity' like you used to have while playing sandlot ball....

And lets not even mention Hirschbeck getting Texiera out at home Friday on a sweep tag, when he was totally out of position - directly on top of the play, and not on 3B line extended, like he should have been..from the proper angle he would have seen the hand in before the tag...


Pretty substandard weekend for that crew...just MHO....

[outathm]

I think Brian has noticed the East coast Bias on the site. LOL

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by briancurtin

Really?

The first two were posted within 2 minutes of each other. We were formulatting our threads at the same time, immediately after the story broke on Baseball Tonight.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

The first two were posted within 2 minutes of each other. We were formulatting our threads at the same time, immediately after the story broke on Baseball Tonight.

That almost makes it sound exciting.

[David B]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

Foster also called Texiera out at home yesterday, even though the C clearly tagged him with an empty glove, and the ball in his bare hand. The Yankee announcers had a field day with that one, questioning whether MLB now had 'electricity' like you used to have while playing sandlot ball....

And lets not even mention Hirschbeck getting Texiera out at home Friday on a sweep tag, when he was totally out of position - directly on top of the play, and not on 3B line extended, like he should have been..from the proper angle he would have seen the hand in before the tag...


Pretty substandard weekend for that crew...just MHO....

Happens all the time though. Red Sox Pedroia (sp) had the same play last week, he tagged the runner at second with ball in hand. He's out and not a word or complaint.

Happened so fast, only the guys on ESPN could see it later on replay.
That's a very hard call to make as an umpire with players at that level of play.

Thanks
David

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by David B

Happens all the time though. Red Sox Pedroia (sp) had the same play last week, he tagged the runner at second with ball in hand. He's out and not a word or complaint.

Happened so fast, only the guys on ESPN could see it later on replay.
That's a very hard call to make as an umpire with players at that level of play.

Thanks
David

Your post contradicts itself: the first paragraph suggests that the umpire called it wrong on purpose, but the second suggests that he blew it because it's a tough call at that level. What are you saying?

[David B]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Your post contradicts itself: the first paragraph suggests that the umpire called it wrong on purpose, but the second suggests that he blew it because it's a tough call at that level. What are you saying?

I'll rephrase, it happens all the time that umpires might miss a call when the fielder tags with the glove and the ball in hand.

Especially at high levels (players that shave) because the action is so fast and the players, like Pedroia did quickly put the ball in his glove as he moved out of the play.

When the umpire saw the glove, the ball was in it since Pedroia was on the outfield side of the bag making the tag.

I would never suggest that an umpire makes a call wrong on purpose, but in the spirit of the debate, if the ball is there long before the runner, yes most umpires will call the out.

Thanks
DAvid

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

The first two were posted within 2 minutes of each other. We were formulatting our threads at the same time, immediately after the story broke on Baseball Tonight.

Originally Posted by mbyron

That almost makes it sound exciting.

That's what I was going for. You like?