![]() |
|
|
|||
If any umpire sees the ball is foul, they should call it. So, I wouldn't go for help b/c I wouldn't have to. If my partner(s) saw it, then they would call it and I would already know it was foul.
No asking and see you later.
__________________
Question everything until you get an irrefutable or understandable answer...Don't settle for "That's Just the Way it is" |
|
|||
No help needed. The others should have called it if they saw it so why ask?
__________________
when the world gets in my face I say Have a nice day For all those who don't know ... Ed Hickox is the MAN ![]() NFHS NCAA PONY ASA ISC USSSA |
|
|||
if the ball hits the batter its just a dead ball.... why does it matter if it was fair or foul... if the batter is hit in or out of the box is the only variable to this situation where the plate umpire has to determine anything after the ball has been declared dead by the BU
__________________
when the world gets in my face I say Have a nice day For all those who don't know ... Ed Hickox is the MAN ![]() NFHS NCAA PONY ASA ISC USSSA |
|
|||
agreed...or should I say RATIFIED!
__________________
when the world gets in my face I say Have a nice day For all those who don't know ... Ed Hickox is the MAN ![]() NFHS NCAA PONY ASA ISC USSSA |
|
|||
Quote:
__________________
Every game is a big game ![]() |
|
|||
Quote:
__________________
when the world gets in my face I say Have a nice day For all those who don't know ... Ed Hickox is the MAN ![]() NFHS NCAA PONY ASA ISC USSSA |
|
|||
[QUOTE=kcg NC2Ablu;611597] bet you go for help on EVERYTHING... your approach is user friendly... QUOTE]
If I think going for help is the right thing to do or if it will help me defuse a potential situation with a coach/manager I will go "talk" to my partner.
__________________
Every game is a big game ![]() |
|
||||
[QUOTE=GoodwillRef;611602]
Quote:
Sorry, I go out of my way to be friendly and approachable, but ceding to requests like this do no good at all to the game. If a coach wants to go, who am I to stop him? |
|
|||
I think you can still be approachable and not go to your partner even though coach asks nicely. Just because coach treats you like a human being, doesn't necessarily mean that I'm going to do everything he says. He comes unglued, I still may not ask.
I will reply as others have said "if my partner saw it foul" then he would've called it. I think that if the umpire doesn't follow this path, he (U3) gets baited into "changing his call" by the coach.
__________________
It's like Deja Vu all over again |
|
|||
[QUOTE=GoodwillRef;611602]Then you are wrong. walking out to your partner is like hey coach Ill do anything for you . now that coach OWNS you he is going to expect that any time he asks you will go and now if you dont he will pitch a fit and you will probably try to keep him in the game when its your own self perpetuating friendly attitude that makes him go off like that.
__________________
when the world gets in my face I say Have a nice day For all those who don't know ... Ed Hickox is the MAN ![]() NFHS NCAA PONY ASA ISC USSSA |
|
||||
I was working a DH at a D3 school about an hour from Madison. First game, my plate. R1/R2. Smash down the third base line, pretty much on the line. Fielded on backhand by F5. I point fair, he steps on third, throws to first, end of inning. Coach starts in - "no WAY that's fair"...on and on. I'm already halfway up the first base line, coach decides to join me. He continues on and on and on. I finally make it clear after he repeats himself a few times that he needs to get back to the dugout and he leaves, but not before stopping in front of his (pretty full bleachers) to pick up a bat, whereupon he starts screaming and demonstrating again. I eject him. He charges me. Partner plays rodeo clown.
Game 2, we get a rundown between first and second. They take about 3 more throws than necessary and F3 gets in the way without the ball, R1 slows dramatically to go around F3, I call obstruction, the OTHER coach comes out and almost gets ejected. I probably should've run him, but I really didn't want to run both head coaches from a DH, so he probably got a pass he didn't deserve. Assignor was there during the obstruction. He called the next day and asked me if anyone would've argued had I not made the call. I told him "I don't know, but it was textbook obstruction during a rundown." He said he didn't think anyone would've argued had I not called it. I asked him whether I should let that guide how I called the game. Then he asked about the ejection in the first game. He asked if I hustled to the line and got a good look at the ball. Now, this guy umpires and has for over 30 years. He knows EXACTLY when kind of a look the plate umpire gets on a rocket hit down the line. I told him -- as good a look as any plate umpire can get on that situation. My instinct was fair and that was the call. I asked him what kind of look the third base coach gets from his box. Then he asked again why I ejected the coach. I read from my ejection report word for word. So I guess I see where the OP is coming from. I mean, I think one is expected to bend over backwards and do the splits to be accommodating to the teams around here even considering the fact that these coaches are on the bottom rung of college baseball thinking they're all the next Earl Weaver. And don't expect any backing for a situation. I was told flat out "don't expect that I'm going to back you cause you're the umpire." So I quit working college baseball in the area and probably won't for quite some time. It's OK, really. It's only 2 months of baseball and it's nice not having someone beg me to work 1PM DH during the week when I'm working my day job. For $185 for 5-7 hours work for 18 innings. With no travel money. And yes, many of my HS games are far better played. Last edited by Rich; Wed Jul 01, 2009 at 08:12am. |
![]() |
Bookmarks |
|
|