looking for advice

[HokieUmp]

Originally Posted by Bishopcolle

You did right....he vented; it was late in the game....all's well that ends well...

Are you serious? Or did you not want the OPoster to feel alone on this one?

[Bishopcolle]

Originally Posted by HokieUmp

Are you serious? Or did you not want the OPoster to feel alone on this one?

Basically, I am serious...after he vents, IF he quits.....no problem in my opinion...IF he continues, he gets dumped regardless of the amount of game time left....I give him "That's enough Coach," and we move on...unless he continues, and then he's gone.....

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Bishopcolle

Basically, I am serious...after he vents, IF he quits.....no problem in my opinion...IF he continues, he gets dumped regardless of the amount of game time left....I give him "That's enough Coach," and we move on...unless he continues, and then he's gone.....

In the OP, the coach left his position in the coaches box and came down to the umpire to argue balls and strikes. This is an automatic ejection. He can bark a little from his box (or dugout), but when he approaches the umpire to argue balls and strikes, he's done.

[Bishopcolle]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

In the OP, the coach left his position in the coaches box and came down to the umpire to argue balls and strikes. This is an automatic ejection. He can bark a little from his box (or dugout), but when he approaches the umpire to argue balls and strikes, he's done.

I am sorry, and I guess I am the lone exception....but in HS ball, Varsity level, I will NOT dump the coach if he leaves the box and argues balls and strikes, THE FIRST TIME. He is very quickly going to get the warning...."That's enough Coach, we're done discussing balls and strikes!" The next word on the subject, and he's gone....That's my philosophy, and for me, it works....I NEVER have to look a coach, or another umpire, in the eye, and feel bad for ejecting or not ejecting.....I think you're WAY too quick if you jack 'em on the first leaving, even if they know the rules.....Just my opinion, and like I said, it works for me.....

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by Bishopcolle

I am sorry, and I guess I am the lone exception....but in HS ball, Varsity level, I will NOT dump the coach if he leaves the box and argues balls and strikes, THE FIRST TIME. He is very quickly going to get the warning...."That's enough Coach, we're done discussing balls and strikes!" The next word on the subject, and he's gone....That's my philosophy, and for me, it works....I NEVER have to look a coach, or another umpire, in the eye, and feel bad for ejecting or not ejecting.....I think you're WAY too quick if you jack 'em on the first leaving, even if they know the rules.....Just my opinion, and like I said, it works for me.....

Fine and dandy....but, you would allow one to scream at you?

I would never want to be partnered up with an umpire that would allow a rat to leave the coaching box and scream about pitches. Do it for your partner if not for yourself!

[Bishopcolle]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

Fine and dandy....but, you would allow one to scream at you?

I would never want to be partnered up with an umpire that would allow a rat to leave the coaching box and scream about pitches. Do it for your partner if not for yourself!

No, you are ABSOLUTELY right there! No screaming! I agree, with that he's gone....

[HokieUmp]

Originally Posted by Bishopcolle

No, you are ABSOLUTELY right there! No screaming! I agree, with that he's gone....

And that's why I asked if you were serious on the older post. The OP stated "screaming" and leaving the box. To me, that's not venting, that's asking "may I please leave this game now, Mr Umpire, sir?"

"Why, yes. Yes, you may."

Ding!

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by Bishopcolle

No, you are ABSOLUTELY right there! No screaming! I agree, with that he's gone....

Ahhh...

It appears Your Eminence has experienced an epiphany.

May the Lord be with you.

JM

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Bishopcolle

I am sorry, and I guess I am the lone exception....but in HS ball, Varsity level, I will NOT dump the coach if he leaves the box and argues balls and strikes, THE FIRST TIME. He is very quickly going to get the warning...."That's enough Coach, we're done discussing balls and strikes!" The next word on the subject, and he's gone....That's my philosophy, and for me, it works....I NEVER have to look a coach, or another umpire, in the eye, and feel bad for ejecting or not ejecting.....I think you're WAY too quick if you jack 'em on the first leaving, even if they know the rules.....Just my opinion, and like I said, it works for me.....

"That's enough" needs to be said when he first starts chirping or starts to leave his position to argue balls and strikes. This constitutes his warning. If he continues toward the plate, he's finished. I rarely have to eject anyone, because most coaches know better than to argue balls and strikes, especially with me, or other umpires I know that don't put up with that kind of shenanagins.

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

"That's enough" needs to be said when he first starts chirping or starts to leave his position to argue balls and strikes. This constitutes his warning. If he continues toward the plate, he's finished. I rarely have to eject anyone, because most coaches know better than to argue balls and strikes, especially with me, or other umpires I know that don't put up with that kind of shenanagins.

I also forbid any funny business or horseplay from coaches.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

I also forbid any funny business or horseplay from coaches.

Ummm, I see...in addition to any shenanagins.