Honig's Shirts - CWS

[BigTex]

Originally Posted by outathm

I would prefer to not advertise for a company not paying me.

Get over it. Do you pry the Cadillac, Ford, Saturn (or whatever) logo off of your car? Do you unravel the little horse on your shirts? Do you unstitch the swoosh on your shoes? We live in a capitalistic society, passive advertisements are one way of keeping costs lower.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by BigTex

We live in a capitalistic society, passive advertisements are one way of keeping costs lower.

When are they planning to implement this program?

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by BigTex

Get over it. Do you pry the Cadillac, Ford, Saturn (or whatever) logo off of your car? Do you unravel the little horse on your shirts? Do you unstitch the swoosh on your shoes? We live in a capitalistic society, passive advertisements are one way of keeping costs lower.

But would you like the logo superimposed across the trunk of your car on a rectangular black background in a hideous fashion?

[outathm]

I do not buy Nike, so no, I do not take the swoosh off of my shoes. I do take the Dealer sticker off of my car, and I will also remove anything that is easily removed. I agree that the subliminal advertising is here to stay, but this patch is not subtle in any way. It is very obvious and glaring, but it is also easily removed, so I will.

[mrm21711]

Originally Posted by outathm

I do not buy Nike, so no, I do not take the swoosh off of my shoes. I do take the Dealer sticker off of my car, and I will also remove anything that is easily removed. I agree that the subliminal advertising is here to stay, but this patch is not subtle in any way. It is very obvious and glaring, but it is also easily removed, so I will.

The white Honig's logo isnt nearly as terrible as this black patch.

Bob mentioned they switched to a new manufacturer - did anybody buy these shirts and was their any difference in quality compared to their previous version?

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by outathm

I do not buy Nike, so no, I do not take the swoosh off of my shoes. I do take the Dealer sticker off of my car, and I will also remove anything that is easily removed. I agree that the subliminal advertising is here to stay, but this patch is not subtle in any way. It is very obvious and glaring, but it is also easily removed, so I will.

When they first introduced the MLB logo on the back of all their caps in 1993-94, I used to pluck it off all of my caps thread-by-thread. Some of the alternate fitted caps now come with a cheesy New Era logo on the side. I pluck those out too, although I have taken to leaving the MLB logo on the back now.

As for Honig's shirts: They're not very cool or comfortable; they're overpriced; they have sizing issues. Why should we even bother with them--especially if they're now making them more cheaply?

[waltjp]

Has anyone tried these?

Cliff Keen U126-MXS Loose-fit Performance Umpire Shirt



Lesters Upstate Sports :: Baseball & Softball :: Shirts & Numbers :: **NEW**Cliff Keen U126-MXS Umpire Shirt MXS Loose-fit Performance fabric

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by waltjp

Has anyone tried these?

Cliff Keen U126-MXS Loose-fit Performance Umpire Shirt



Lesters Upstate Sports :: Baseball & Softball :: Shirts & Numbers :: **NEW**Cliff Keen U126-MXS Umpire Shirt MXS Loose-fit Performance fabric

If these are anywhere near the quality of the other Cliff Keen shirts I own, I'm sure they are just great. Love me some Cliff Keen shirts!

[Matt]

Originally Posted by dacodee

I agree... While Honigs has "OK" shirts, I'd prefer not to have their logo on my back. I can live with the Cliff Keen logo on the left sleeve. CK is small and one barely notices it. But the Honigs logo, right above my US flag doesn't look too good.

And the CK logo is easily removable, as I have done on all my shirts.

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

If these are anywhere near the quality of the other Cliff Keen shirts I own, I'm sure they are just great. Love me some Cliff Keen shirts!

Absolutely. The color holds up better, and they are more comfortable. I still have two navy and one powder shirts I got from them in 1998, and the navy ones are still my regular-use navy shirts. The only reason I have a Honig's shirt is because CK had a little boo-boo on their MLB blue shirts and I needed one in a hurry to match my partner.

[David B]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

If these are anywhere near the quality of the other Cliff Keen shirts I own, I'm sure they are just great. Love me some Cliff Keen shirts!

have to look at those, CK always has a nice shirt.

And Lester's is great to work with also.

Thansk
David

[bigbeardedbryan]

Originally Posted by waltjp

Has anyone tried these?

Cliff Keen U126-MXS Loose-fit Performance Umpire Shirt



Lesters Upstate Sports :: Baseball & Softball :: Shirts & Numbers :: **NEW**Cliff Keen U126-MXS Umpire Shirt MXS Loose-fit Performance fabric

I own two of these, one in navy and the other in powder blue. They are surprisingly light (perfect for hot days since about half our HS chapter doesn't own powder blue) but are really prone to wrinkling because of the nature of the "performance" fabric. If you're used to folding shirts neatly and putting them in your equipment bag, you'll pull out a giant wrinkle; these seem to work lots better on hangers.

My biggest issue with them is that the powder shirt has two giant worn spots in the front where it rubs against the clips on my chest protector, and it's probably only been worn four times. The material has frayed and nearly come unraveled and if I were to wear that shirt on the bases it'd be really obvious. I haven't worn the navy shirt on the plate yet and it is in good shape after a half-dozen or so washings.

That said, I've never had anything but good dealings with Lester's, I used to make the trip every other year to stock up when I lived in western NY.

[bob jenkins]

I worked with someone this weekend who was wearing the CK version of "polo" (or "MLB") blue. He said it was a new shirt. It wasn't the right color. It was more like the old powder blue, but also seemed to have a "greenish" tint to it (I dodn't have any of the powder blue shirts with me to compare).

[mrm21711]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

As for Honig's shirts: They're not very cool or comfortable; they're overpriced; they have sizing issues. Why should we even bother with them--especially if they're now making them more cheaply?

What do you wear? CK?

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by mrm21711

What do you wear? CK?

I wear (have worn) several different brands in many colors: Honig's, PlusPOS, Dalco, Majestic, Smitty's, Logo, Cliff Keen, Cliff Keen-Gerry Davis, Official's Choice. I constantly rotate, so they never really get worn out or faded. I try a lot of brands, but no one brand is really exceptional--even the high-priced ones like Honig's and Cliff Keen. I haven't tried the new Ump-Attire brand, because I don't need any more navy shirts. (I'll get yet another black one when they start making them.)

I can say that the shirt with the most uncomfortable fabric and the shoddiest workmanship is the Gerry Davis Signature shirt made by Cliff Keen. The regular Cliff Keen is a good (not great) shirt, but not at its inflated price. The GD version is dreadful. I won't even give it away; it just sits on a shelf. I can't believe CK put their name and logo on it. (Gerry Davis, I can believe.)

Comfort really depends on the weather. If it's over 100 degrees, the thinnest, lightest one is the most comfortable. But overall, the most comfortable, durable and best performing shirt is probably Smitty's or Majestic. The Smitty's is a little thinner than the Majestic, but not as thin as Official's Choice or Dalco, which is what you wear when it's really hot. And it's a better value. Official's Choice shirts of several years ago had a different fabric than the see-through fabric that they now produce. I had navy, cream and powder in the early-issue fabric and they are okay to wear in the heat. But I wouldn't go near anything Official's Choice made in the last two years (non-standard colors and trim styles, in addition to that awful see-through fabric.) But if I get stuck wearing powder or cream, I wear those. I prefer gray or MLB polo blue in the heat, and I have those colors in Dalco, Smitty's or PlusPOS (which is another favorite).

I have fun with all the brands and colors. I like to match no matter what color is called for. I like to have a clean shirt no matter how many games I work in a week, and I like to have a nice, crisp, new-looking shirt no matter what. Also, some of the assignments require shirts without patches, so I have sets of black and MLB blue with and without patches. It's worth a few extra bucks to have plenty of shirts, and it's also worth it to have each color in two sizes for plate and base work.

[Kevin Finnerty]

This is hilarious. It's part of the latest Official's Choice semi-coherent email campaign: