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Old Thu May 21, 2009, 11:47pm
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PU: Before you start, we are not going to discuss balls and strikes.
That seems a bit confrontational to me. Granted, I wasn't there to see any non-verbal actions by the coach, but can't see myself ever starting a conversation like that.
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Old Fri May 22, 2009, 12:16am
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That seems a bit confrontational to me. Granted, I wasn't there to see any non-verbal actions by the coach, but can't see myself ever starting a conversation like that.
Not only that, but then he compounded it by breaking the rule which says that strike calls can't be appealed. He went from one extreme to the other in one conversation. Weak a$$.
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Old Fri May 22, 2009, 02:24am
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PU: I called it a swing.

Coach: Can I just ask that you get help.

PU: Coach, I called the swing, not the pitch. It's a strike and there is no appeal on a strike call.
I had a conversation like this twice this year, with the same coach, in two games about a month apart.

If I were coaching I think I would look up that rule after the first game, but...well, that's what I get for thinking.
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Old Fri May 22, 2009, 07:47am
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I had a conversation like this twice this year, with the same coach, in two games about a month apart.

If I were coaching I think I would look up that rule after the first game, but...well, that's what I get for thinking.
Coach might have been working you. Apparently you can get some umpires to reverse a strike call.
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Old Fri May 22, 2009, 08:07am
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Coach might have been working you. Apparently you can get some umpires to reverse a strike call.
I think this is really going on way too much. I've noticed the last couple of seasons that coaches now want to appeal "everything".

The only thing I can think of is that there are "lots of umpires" who are allowing them to appeal things that should "not" be appealed.

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Old Fri May 22, 2009, 08:50am
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I think this is really going on way too much. I've noticed the last couple of seasons that coaches now want to appeal "everything".

The only thing I can think of is that there are "lots of umpires" who are allowing them to appeal things that should "not" be appealed.
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I kinda disagree. I believe that there are "lots of umpires" who, when asked to appeal to their partner, do so, when they should just stick with their own call instead....
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Old Fri May 22, 2009, 08:52am
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I agree with Dave B...sometimes we just have to tell the coach..."there's no way I'm asking my partner...he's not even supposed to be watching _______." Or "I am 100% sure of what I saw, I'm not asking him."
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Old Fri May 22, 2009, 12:44pm
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Speaking of check swing appeals. I was in the A position a few weeks ago with a left-handed batter up. The pitch is a ball and the batter check swings. The defense is hollering to "check him, check him!". I can't hear my partner but I see him telling the catcher that he's not about to appeal that. The defensive team was in the first base dugout, so the coaches were right there. The acted like they couldn't figure out why we couldn't appeal that. I just said "Guys, I would be guessing if I called that".

On another note, I was at a AA game on Monday night. The home team's batter (left-handed) check swings and the PU points with his left hand and hammers the strike. The U3 was in the B spot so I knew the PU wasn't asking for help. The guys down the row from us (They were self-described umpiring experts) kept going on about "That guy can't see that, how can he appeal that?!" I was going to correct them, but then I remembered the thing about blissful ignorance.
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