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Old Wed May 06, 2009, 12:06am
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Ran into a guy once who said he went to the umpire school the last year they ever taught the outside protector. They had to spend 1/2 the school time teaching the outside and 1/2 the school time teaching the inside. Believe that was 1978 because he mentioned going to the school with Jimmy Joyce.
He said you put the straps on and then grab under the bottom of the protector and pull it up to your chin. You grab the bottom by cupping your fingers (like your going to file them) and grab under the 1/4 of the protector closest to your body as you grab the bottom so you do not get your fingers hit. You do not grab onto the inside hand strap if there is one (you got dinged for this). Most of the old big outside protectors did not come with this inside hand strap anyway. You lined up straight over the catchers head looking right down the middle of the plate and just sat straight down a little bit.
As Tim_C said, when the ball was hit you slide your right arm out of the balloon, reached up with your left hand to take off your mask and the protector is tucked up under your left arm with your hand holding the mask against the protector at hip level. You had to do the same running up the line for the swipe tag. You had to follow the lead-off batter all the way to 3rd, on a triple down the right field line when your partner went out, and you had to make the call at third on a first to third. If you call safe, the strap was left hanging on your arm with the protector dangling, which does not happen if you cheat and us the inside strap if you have one.
I do not write well or communicate well, but this is the best I can do from a story long ago. If you got an outside protector and Tim_C can line you up with Jimmy Joyce since Beaverton is near Portland, that would be the only way I know to actually see how it was taught at the school years ago. Also some of the senior crew chiefs would probably remember if you run into one of them at an off-season clinic.
thanks for the tip on using the mattress, yeah, of course the inside protector is much easier to use but for a turn back the clock tribute to the game of yesteryear, i think it'd be neat to learn how umpires back in the day used to work...
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Old Wed May 06, 2009, 12:57am
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Believe it or not, there are still two umpires that I know of who work high school ball with a balloon in my area (they don't work varsity games). One is an older guy who must be at least 75 years old. I coached a freshman team last year and he worked at least three of my games; the guy needs to retire. He's a really nice man, but the game just moves too fast for him. The other guy is a complete geek who refs three sports, has done them all for probably 15 years, and never gets a varsity game in any of them. It wouldn't matter to me if either one of them could call a decent game, but they are both far below average as umpires. I guess other umpires have told the younger guy that he would help his image by going with an inside protector but he refuses.
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Old Wed May 06, 2009, 04:10pm
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Believe it or not, there are still two umpires that I know of who work high school ball with a balloon in my area ....
I might be way off in this estimation because we are a huge association and I do not see everyone, but I would guess maybe 5% of our guys use the raft for high school games, and some of them are very good umpires.

Once summer ball comes around, I bet another 10% go to the raft to beat the heat.

I started with one, but switched in my second year and never looked back.
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Old Wed May 06, 2009, 04:44pm
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You can not dispute the fact that the "Raft", "Balloon", "Mattress", "Barge" protector or whatever else we can name it, reduces bodily exposure, provides more protection. I assume we all have real jobs to go to after we umpire the next day, so I have been contemplating, after reading these posts, that for the sake of safety and protection, self-preservation, that the "Balloon" protector, outside protector, may be the way to go for Rec and youth baseball. We are for the most part, amateurs, or as one fellow ump stated, "it's a hobby", and is it worth the risk of injury, broken bones,bruised muscles - potential dr bills etc, to "get in a better postion", " or look more professional, for the sake of spending more money on inside protectors and sweat like all get out.

Inside Protectors for HS, College, higher level ball, may very well be the best way. I enjoy the game very much and enjoy the competitive youth environment, I enjoy bringing my best game to each level of competition, and looking sharp and presenting a professional appearance and knowing, understanding and applying the Rules of baseball to the best of my ability. I do not have aspirations of doing higher level games, so I may very well seriously consider using the "Raft" again, as I did in 1966, in my first LL game. For my own safety and protection. I just will have to face a little music from my fellow umps. I may then have to post my new Wilson Plat. on Ebay.
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Old Wed May 06, 2009, 05:05pm
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You can not dispute the fact that the "Raft", "Balloon", "Mattress", "Barge" protector or whatever else we can name it, reduces bodily exposure, provides more protection. I assume we all have real jobs to go to after we umpire the next day, so I have been contemplating, after reading these posts, that for the sake of safety and protection, self-preservation, that the "Balloon" protector, outside protector, may be the way to go for Rec and youth baseball. We are for the most part, amateurs, or as one fellow ump stated, "it's a hobby", and is it worth the risk of injury, broken bones,bruised muscles - potential dr bills etc, to "get in a better postion", " or look more professional, for the sake of spending more money on inside protectors and sweat like all get out.
Sorry, I don't care what level I'm working, I am NOT using a balloon. Not even during "turn back the clock night", I'd rather go as an NL umpire and wear an inside protector. This may be a hobby but it is one I take seriously and I have a hard time taking a balloon seriously in this day and age.
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Old Thu May 07, 2009, 05:29pm
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Sorry, I don't care what level I'm working, I am NOT using a balloon. Not even during "turn back the clock night", I'd rather go as an NL umpire and wear an inside protector. This may be a hobby but it is one I take seriously and I have a hard time taking a balloon seriously in this day and age.
This.

But I would need a plate coat. Any generous souls out there?
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Old Fri May 08, 2009, 02:13pm
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Believe it or not, there are still two umpires that I know of who work high school ball with a balloon in my area (they don't work varsity games). One is an older guy who must be at least 75 years old. I coached a freshman team last year and he worked at least three of my games; the guy needs to retire. He's a really nice man, but the game just moves too fast for him. The other guy is a complete geek who refs three sports, has done them all for probably 15 years, and never gets a varsity game in any of them. It wouldn't matter to me if either one of them could call a decent game, but they are both far below average as umpires. I guess other umpires have told the younger guy that he would help his image by going with an inside protector but he refuses.
Well, there is a major COLLEGE assignor in our area who still uses the outside protector when he works NCAA and NAIA games. In fact, he is the only one whom I know still using this.
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