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Old Wed Apr 29, 2009, 09:05pm
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One of the reasons we go out into short RF is to get away from coaches at the end of a half inning. That way if they choose to come out to "talk" with us, they will appear to be the "instigator" or "aggressor" should the discussion escalate.
If they want to come out in this manner, I do not go meet them halfway. As others have said, I will answer their question as calmly and professionally as possible.

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Old Wed Apr 29, 2009, 09:07pm
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One of the reasons we go out into short RF is to get away from coaches at the end of a half inning. That way if they choose to come out to "talk" with us, they will appear to be the "instigator" or "aggressor" should the discussion escalate.
If they want to come out in this manner, I do not go meet them halfway. As others have said, I will answer their question as calmly and professionally as possible.

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Old Wed Apr 29, 2009, 09:13pm
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I'd rather he visit me between innings than hold up the game.

If he wants to argue the last out of an inning, I might wait for a second until he starts coming towards me, then make him chase me all the way to right field. I might even alter my path to kick first base, then go as deep into right field as I can, or even go into right-center field; anything to make him run more. Then when he finally reaches me I might grin at him and say "you have a nice run?".
For the record I did not know he was coming out to even have a conversation. I did not realize it until I was already in RF. The play that he was arguing was not the last out or the second out. I did not know there was an issue. And I told him, "I would have had more respect for you if you would have come out when the play happened." At the very least I could address the situation immediately, not several minutes later.

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One of the reasons we go out into short RF is to get away from coaches at the end of a half inning. That way if they choose to come out to "talk" with us, they will appear to be the "instigator" or "aggressor" should the discussion escalate.
If they want to come out in this manner, I do not go meet them halfway. As others have said, I will answer their question as calmly and professionally as possible.

JJ
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Old Wed Apr 29, 2009, 09:18pm
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Why is it a respect issue? Nobody else knows what you're talking about.
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Old Wed Apr 29, 2009, 10:06pm
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Why is it a respect issue? Nobody else knows what you're talking about.
Respect means a lot to me. If you know what you are doing as a coach, you do not come out in that situation in my opinion. The fact that this was a first year coach is telling. And the fact that no veteran coach would wait for several outs to debate a call. And yes, umpires have a right to have respect or not have respect for coaches.

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Old Wed Apr 29, 2009, 11:01pm
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And yes, umpires have a right to have respect or not have respect for coaches.
I wouldn't question that; however, I do question what benefit is gained by sharing that opinion with the coach in a situation like this.

It isn't going to make things better and can only make things worse.
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Old Thu Apr 30, 2009, 10:00am
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I wouldn't question that; however, I do question what benefit is gained by sharing that opinion with the coach in a situation like this.

It isn't going to make things better and can only make things worse.
The benefit I got out of saying that, he did not come out there again for something stupid. He knew how I felt about the situation.

I feel we worry too much about what a coach thinks. Nothing got worse or drastically changed as a result of the exchange.

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