Short Right Field.

[jicecone]

Wait a minute. If I am HP umpire that pitcher gets 5 pitches or eight if he is new. This will be enforced even if his mother runs out on the field. (then again if its 10 year olds, never mind ,I won't go there)

There is nothing wrong with being approachable during a game, no matter where you are standing. Remember though, perception is in your favor here. That coach came all that way to make a point, just about any reason you toss him for at that point, he will look like the aggressor.

Your in a win-win situation.

But as much as you have the upper hand there, be professional.

[cc6]

I'd rather he visit me between innings than hold up the game.

If he wants to argue the last out of an inning, I might wait for a second until he starts coming towards me, then make him chase me all the way to right field. I might even alter my path to kick first base, then go as deep into right field as I can, or even go into right-center field; anything to make him run more. Then when he finally reaches me I might grin at him and say "you have a nice run?".

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by cc6

I'd rather he visit me between innings than hold up the game.

If he wants to argue the last out of an inning, I might wait for a second until he starts coming towards me, then make him chase me all the way to right field. I might even alter my path to kick first base, then go as deep into right field as I can, or even go into right-center field; anything to make him run more. Then when he finally reaches me I might grin at him and say "you have a nice run?".

You know evryone like a little arse, but not many like a smart arse. Thats exactly what your doing here. Showing the coach how non-professional you really are. Un-called for.

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by cc6

If he wants to argue the last out of an inning, I might wait for a second until he starts coming towards me, then make him chase me all the way to right field. I might even alter my path to kick first base, then go as deep into right field as I can, or even go into right-center field; anything to make him run more. Then when he finally reaches me I might grin at him and say "you have a nice run?".

Originally Posted by jicecone

You know evryone like a little arse, but not many like a smart arse. Thats exactly what your doing here. Showing the coach how non-professional you really are. Un-called for.

I am going to be optimistic and say that he's joking with us here. At any rate, it is another of his amusing stories.

[cc6]

Originally Posted by SethPDX

I am going to be optimistic and say that he's joking with us here. At any rate, it is another of his amusing stories.

Well, it can't be a story if I said that I "would". If you don't want to share anything productive, please don't post in this thread. Unprofessional? No. I'm just not going to let a rat argue a judgment call without a little workout first.

[briancurtin]

Originally Posted by cc6

Well, it can't be a story if I said that I "would". If you don't want to share anything productive, please don't post in this thread. Unprofessional? No. I'm just not going to let a rat argue a judgment call without a little workout first.

That is one of the stupidest things I have ever read.

[Forest Ump]

I have come to the conclusion that coaches come out and ask questions that they already know the answer to just to get in your head.

I had a coach come out to me the other day. I was working the dish and had just finished ringing up his last batter of the inning. He came out and said, in a friendly tone, he didn't know what to tell his players. He claimed they had never seen a strike zone like mine and didn't know what to do. I wanted to laugh but I just said to him that I call it the same for both teams and they don't seem to be having a problem with it. His team was down by four runs.

I also had a coach come out to me in right field after I had called his player out at 1st on a banger for the 3rd out. He got up close and said to me "What did you see?" I said "I saw the ball get to the base before the runner did." He says "Do you want to know what I saw"? I said" Nope, not interested."

What did he think I was going to say? Like I said, they do it just to get in your head.

[JJ]

One of the reasons we go out into short RF is to get away from coaches at the end of a half inning. That way if they choose to come out to "talk" with us, they will appear to be the "instigator" or "aggressor" should the discussion escalate.
If they want to come out in this manner, I do not go meet them halfway. As others have said, I will answer their question as calmly and professionally as possible.

JJ

[umpjong]

Originally Posted by JJ

One of the reasons we go out into short RF is to get away from coaches at the end of a half inning. That way if they choose to come out to "talk" with us, they will appear to be the "instigator" or "aggressor" should the discussion escalate.
If they want to come out in this manner, I do not go meet them halfway. As others have said, I will answer their question as calmly and professionally as possible.

JJ

And offer them gum...........

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by cc6

I'd rather he visit me between innings than hold up the game.

If he wants to argue the last out of an inning, I might wait for a second until he starts coming towards me, then make him chase me all the way to right field. I might even alter my path to kick first base, then go as deep into right field as I can, or even go into right-center field; anything to make him run more. Then when he finally reaches me I might grin at him and say "you have a nice run?".

For the record I did not know he was coming out to even have a conversation. I did not realize it until I was already in RF. The play that he was arguing was not the last out or the second out. I did not know there was an issue. And I told him, "I would have had more respect for you if you would have come out when the play happened." At the very least I could address the situation immediately, not several minutes later.

Originally Posted by JJ

One of the reasons we go out into short RF is to get away from coaches at the end of a half inning. That way if they choose to come out to "talk" with us, they will appear to be the "instigator" or "aggressor" should the discussion escalate.
If they want to come out in this manner, I do not go meet them halfway. As others have said, I will answer their question as calmly and professionally as possible.

JJ

Exactly.

Peace

[johnnyg08]

Why is it a respect issue? Nobody else knows what you're talking about.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Why is it a respect issue? Nobody else knows what you're talking about.

Respect means a lot to me. If you know what you are doing as a coach, you do not come out in that situation in my opinion. The fact that this was a first year coach is telling. And the fact that no veteran coach would wait for several outs to debate a call. And yes, umpires have a right to have respect or not have respect for coaches.

Peace

[Brett]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And yes, umpires have a right to have respect or not have respect for coaches.

I wouldn't question that; however, I do question what benefit is gained by sharing that opinion with the coach in a situation like this.

It isn't going to make things better and can only make things worse.