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Old Tue Apr 28, 2009, 11:10am
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So every time someone white gets passed over by someone of color, the person of color was not "qualified?"

Things like this always make me laugh.

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Old Tue Apr 28, 2009, 11:29am
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So every time someone white gets passed over by someone of color, the person of color was not "qualified?"

Things like this always make me laugh.

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Me, too. And I'm white.

MLB umpires comprise a small fraternity, and when one of the black guys tanks a high-profile call, a legion of white guys come out with some specious affirmative action rap. Not accurate and not cool. It's drastically more true of women newscasters and sportscasters than male umpires. In fact, it's beyond insulting. Has everyone had enough of those laughable, know-nothing bimbos on the new MLB Network? When that Hazel Mae gal does her highlight show, it's downright unwatchable.

Doesn't sexism feel better than racism?

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Great. But what about having a merely competent and scantly knowledgeable baseball person to bring us the game on what should be a marvelous network? It's an unwatchable joke. It's worse than SportsCenter, something I thought was impossible.
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It's drastically more true of women newscasters and sportscasters than male umpires. In fact, it's beyond insulting. Has everyone had enough of those laughable, know-nothing bimbos on the new MLB Network? When that Hazel May gal does her highlight show, it's downright unwatchable.

Doesn't sexism feel better than racism?
How hard is it to read the news and keep the show going?

Then again I do not watch Fox News either.

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How hard is it to read the news and keep the show going?

Then again I do not watch Fox News either.

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It's apparently much too hard for Hazel Mae. She has no baseball sense whatsoever. Her highlight packages are the second-worst baseball BROADcasts I have ever seen.
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Old Tue Apr 28, 2009, 12:14pm
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It's apparently much too hard for Hazel Mae. She has no baseball sense whatsoever. Her highlight packages are the second-worst baseball BROADcasts I have ever seen.
I do not watch the MLB Network, so I cannot comment on who anchors or who is really on their shows and how good they are.

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Old Tue Apr 28, 2009, 12:53pm
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I do not watch the MLB Network, so I cannot comment on who anchors or who is really on their shows and how good they are.

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Please watch Hazel Mae's highlight package ... just once. That'll be all you need.
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Old Tue Apr 28, 2009, 01:08pm
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Please watch Hazel Mae's highlight package ... just once. That'll be all you need.
Even if I did, I do not get upset over anchors. I do not watch for them. I watch because I want information, not to hear them read off a highlight.

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Old Tue Apr 28, 2009, 07:45pm
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How hard is it to read the news and keep the show going?

Then again I do not watch Fox News either.

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No, some how you strike me as the CNN type.
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No, some how you strike me as the CNN type.
Anytime someone does not watch Fox News they are a certain type to people of your political persuasion.

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Anytime someone does not watch Fox News they are a certain type to people of your political persuasion.

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Yeah, we have found that it holds absolutely true about people of your political persuasion.

I no longer watch Fox News either, but probably not for the same reason. There has just been no good news on TV for quite some time now.
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So every time someone white gets passed over by someone of color, the person of color was not "qualified?"

Things like this always make me laugh.

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When statistics and certain comments bear it out, the answer is clear.
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Old Tue Apr 28, 2009, 02:23pm
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When statistics and certain comments bear it out, the answer is clear.
I do not see a lot of Black/African American baseball umpires at any level. So you would have to explain what statistics you are talking about. Then again, that would mean showing something other than hyperbole.

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Old Tue Apr 28, 2009, 02:31pm
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It is not hyperbole when someone's ratings are poor, lower than a person above him, yet he is given a job when the person above him was next in line to receive said job. I doubt anyone would complain if both persons were white or black or Hispanic, etc., but when the higher-rated, higher performing individual is passed up in favor of someone who is a minority, it more than raises a few eyebrows.
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Old Tue Apr 28, 2009, 02:53pm
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It is not hyperbole when someone's ratings are poor, lower than a person above him, yet he is given a job when the person above him was next in line to receive said job. I doubt anyone would complain if both persons were white or black or Hispanic, etc., but when the higher-rated, higher performing individual is passed up in favor of someone who is a minority, it more than raises a few eyebrows.
Aren't ratings a subjective thing in the first place? If ratings meant everything, why do many umpires have a job at the Major League level know? I do not claim to know or care about these ratings and I sometimes wonder how anyone other than specific parties knows anything about everyone's ratings. And I certainly do not know how one person knows about another person's ratings.

And the claim that if this was a minority is rather silly too. First of all there are not many minorities in baseball period. I have gone seasons and not worked with a single Black or Hispanic umpire at any level. And I certainly do not know many (or any) personally working any pro ball or trying to get into pro ball. For one going to pro school is not something many Black umpires I come in contact with care much about at all. It is hard to find a single Black player play baseball, let alone umpire the sport.

It sounds to me like sour grapes when a person gets passed over for an assignment. And instead of taking responsibility for his actions and what he did not do, it has to be the system or the minorities taking all the spots. Even though the vast majority of umpires in this country are definitely not Black, I bet the overall percentage of Hispanics might be growing, but I doubt they dominate any level like you have tried to suggest.


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