anyone wish Ron Luciano was still around?

UMP25 · #1 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 28, 2009, 10:59am

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Didn't the most qualified guy who happened to be white get the job?

Not necessarily.

Durham · #2 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 28, 2009, 11:02am

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Originally Posted by UMP25

Not necessarily.

Ok, maybe a friend of yours is more qualified, but didn't Chris get the job and if he isn't white, he is the lightest skinned brotha that I have ever seen.

UMP25 · #3 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 28, 2009, 11:05am

No, no friends involved; and I didn't say that every guy hired was a minority over a white. Believe it or not, MLB was seriously considering bypassing Chris and going to the next guy on the list. Thankfully, they didn't go that route.

JRutledge · #4 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 28, 2009, 11:10am

So every time someone white gets passed over by someone of color, the person of color was not "qualified?"

Things like this always make me laugh.

Peace

Kevin Finnerty · #5 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 28, 2009, 11:29am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

So every time someone white gets passed over by someone of color, the person of color was not "qualified?"

Things like this always make me laugh.

Peace

Me, too. And I'm white.

MLB umpires comprise a small fraternity, and when one of the black guys tanks a high-profile call, a legion of white guys come out with some specious affirmative action rap. Not accurate and not cool. It's drastically more true of women newscasters and sportscasters than male umpires. In fact, it's beyond insulting. Has everyone had enough of those laughable, know-nothing bimbos on the new MLB Network? When that Hazel Mae gal does her highlight show, it's downright unwatchable.

Doesn't sexism feel better than racism?

Kevin Finnerty · #6 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 28, 2009, 11:44am

Great. But what about having a merely competent and scantly knowledgeable baseball person to bring us the game on what should be a marvelous network? It's an unwatchable joke. It's worse than SportsCenter, something I thought was impossible.

JRutledge · #7 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 28, 2009, 11:44am

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It's drastically more true of women newscasters and sportscasters than male umpires. In fact, it's beyond insulting. Has everyone had enough of those laughable, know-nothing bimbos on the new MLB Network? When that Hazel May gal does her highlight show, it's downright unwatchable.

Doesn't sexism feel better than racism?

How hard is it to read the news and keep the show going?

Then again I do not watch Fox News either.

Peace

Kevin Finnerty · #8 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 28, 2009, 12:09pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

How hard is it to read the news and keep the show going?

Then again I do not watch Fox News either.

Peace

It's apparently much too hard for Hazel Mae. She has no baseball sense whatsoever. Her highlight packages are the second-worst baseball BROADcasts I have ever seen.

SanDiegoSteve · #9 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 28, 2009, 07:45pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

How hard is it to read the news and keep the show going?

Then again I do not watch Fox News either.

Peace

No, some how you strike me as the CNN type.

UMP25 · #10 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 28, 2009, 02:06pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

So every time someone white gets passed over by someone of color, the person of color was not "qualified?"

Things like this always make me laugh.

Peace

When statistics and certain comments bear it out, the answer is clear.

JRutledge · #11 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 28, 2009, 02:23pm

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When statistics and certain comments bear it out, the answer is clear.

I do not see a lot of Black/African American baseball umpires at any level. So you would have to explain what statistics you are talking about. Then again, that would mean showing something other than hyperbole.

Peace

UMP25 · #12 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 28, 2009, 02:31pm

It is not hyperbole when someone's ratings are poor, lower than a person above him, yet he is given a job when the person above him was next in line to receive said job. I doubt anyone would complain if both persons were white or black or Hispanic, etc., but when the higher-rated, higher performing individual is passed up in favor of someone who is a minority, it more than raises a few eyebrows.

Durham · #13 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 28, 2009, 12:17pm

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No, no friends involved; and I didn't say that every guy hired was a minority over a white. Believe it or not, MLB was seriously considering bypassing Chris and going to the next guy on the list. Thankfully, they didn't go that route.

No, the guy they were thinking of was actually 3rd on the list. But I can't wait till the give Angle a full time job, he will get one I just hope he doesn't have to wait 1000 games. He is the best umpire in the system of the guys coming up and he is the most humble guy in the world. I hope for him and his family that he doesn't have to wait 1000.

mrm21711 · #14 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 28, 2009, 12:44pm

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No, the guy they were thinking of was actually 3rd on the list. But I can't wait till the give Angle a full time job, he will get one I just hope he doesn't have to wait 1000 games. He is the best umpire in the system of the guys coming up and he is the most humble guy in the world. I hope for him and his family that he doesn't have to wait 1000.

What about Hoye & Drake? Where do these two stand? And dont say "on their feet" - lol.

Durham · #15 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 28, 2009, 01:17pm

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What about Hoye & Drake? Where do these two stand? And dont say "on their feet" - lol.

Oh, they are up there. My money would be on Drake to get the next job, but I wouldn't be surprised if it went to Johnson. Angle still has some time to wait, but he is ready, just getting innings in and making him that much better.
The funny thing is when I was younger I use to believe that the MLB guys were the best in the world, but now I know that like most things in life they are really good and they were in the right place a the right time and it worked out for each of them. There are probably 75-125 guys in the world that are good enough to work full time in MLB, but they just weren't in the right place at the right time.