Red Sox/Yankees Question

[JR12]

I was also a little confused. It was an odd point straight out with his right arm as his head was still looking straight ahead. Then he signaled safe!

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JR12

I was also a little confused. It was an odd point straight out with his right arm as his head was still looking straight ahead. Then he signaled safe!

When there's an immediate play after the strike call, the strike signal sometimes gets "rushed."

[rulesmaven]

They showed a highlight on sportscenter this morning with ambient audio, and you can hear the PU verbalize on the point "that's a strike," and then "safe" on the plate play signal.

I thought perhaps the reason for the slightly more exagerated strike call than usual might have been that the batter abandoned the box when he saw the runner coming and maybe the PU initially thought the batter was going to attempt to call time late or something. Also the pitcher altered his delivery a bit when he saw what was happening, and maybe the pu was running through whether the almost-quick-pitch was a balk as the pitch was on the way, and so put a bit extra on strike call to emphasize no balk. Lip reading during the game, the pitcher seemed to ask the PU after the play whether a balk had been called, which seemed unusual. Maybe he was asking "ball"?, but it looked like "balk?"

[Fittske]

Usually the point mechanic is given for non-verbal "swinging" strikes. I don’t know if this umpire uses the "hammer" mechanic for his called strike, but if he does, this could have been confused with an "out" call on the runner if he had given it. Good job by the PU to keep his presence of mind to single strike then make the safe call. I guess that’s why he is a professional :-)

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by Fittske

Usually the point mechanic is given for non-verbal "swinging" strikes. I don’t know if this umpire uses the "hammer" mechanic for his called strike, but if he does, this could have been confused with an "out" call on the runner if he had given it. Good job by the PU to keep his presence of mind to single strike then make the safe call. I guess that’s why he is a professional :-)

very good point

[David B]

Originally Posted by Fittske

Usually the point mechanic is given for non-verbal "swinging" strikes. I don’t know if this umpire uses the "hammer" mechanic for his called strike, but if he does, this could have been confused with an "out" call on the runner if he had given it. Good job by the PU to keep his presence of mind to single strike then make the safe call. I guess that’s why he is a professional :-)

Watching it on ESPN and I was impressed with the PU's timing. Smooth, nothing seemed to phase him.

Thanks
David

[zm1283]

I thought Pettit asked the PU if it was a "ball" or not. I don't know how it would be a balk as Pettit was going out of the windup and not the stretch.

[rulesmaven]

Originally Posted by zm1283

I thought Pettit asked the PU if it was a "ball" or not. I don't know how it would be a balk as Pettit was going out of the windup and not the stretch.

Yup -- I've now seen the replay that inlcudes Pettite, and you're right. He wasn't pitching from the set position. Full windup, which is pretty much what allowed the steal.

[DonInKansas]

Bases were loaded, some pitchers like to go windup from there. Ellsbury was damn near into his slide when the ball was delivered.

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by DonInKansas

Bases were loaded, some pitchers like to go windup from there. Ellsbury was damn near into his slide when the ball was delivered.

If he hadn't tripped on his last step, he may not have slid at all.