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Old Sun May 18, 2008, 08:29pm
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How can a veteran like Mike O'Reilly, in position to make a call on a home run, be so easily overruled by crew members who had worse viewpoints?

If instant replay is ever instituted in baseball it will be because of disgraceful calls like this one.
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Old Sun May 18, 2008, 09:19pm
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Who is Mike O'Reilly?
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Old Sun May 18, 2008, 09:46pm
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There is only one angle for that call, and O'Reilly had it. I can't see changing that one unless it was obviously wrong, and it obviously wasn't.
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Old Sun May 18, 2008, 10:27pm
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it wasn't obviously right either. It took a couple of views from the cameras to realize the proper call, and two of his other three crewmates had angles which showed it going straight into foul territory and hitting to the left of the pole. Reilly was unsure of himself and voluntarily went for help as soon as randolph left the dugout. If you're unsure of yourself that's what you do, they just missed it. It all happened a lot faster than what the replay showed us.
Reilly got the call right the first time. He called for the huddle, so I don't know what his problem with the call was. "Balking" Bob Davidson was the one who told Reilly the ball was foul. Randolph only came out after the call of home run was changed.
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Old Sun May 18, 2008, 10:53pm
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Reilly got the call right the first time. He called for the huddle, so I don't know what his problem with the call was. "Balking" Bob Davidson was the one who told Reilly the ball was foul. Randolph only came out after the call of home run was changed.
In other words, the end result the call was blown.
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Old Sun May 18, 2008, 11:08pm
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In other words, the end result the call was blown.

Happens every day....even at that level.....
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Old Sun May 18, 2008, 11:57pm
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Happens every day....even at that level.....
Wow, what an endorsement of mediocrity.
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Old Mon May 19, 2008, 12:19am
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Wow, what an endorsement of mediocrity.
And you would have got it right..........because....................

When you reach their level then come see us.....Geez

Mike Reilly is probably one of the most respected umpires in MLB, lighten up, so they arent perfect...
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Old Mon May 19, 2008, 02:56am
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Who is Mike O'Reilly?
I believe he's kinfolk to Bill.
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Old Mon May 19, 2008, 07:00am
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Wow, what an endorsement of mediocrity.
Its not an endorsement of mediocrity...its a statement...blown calls happen... we all try to eliminate them, but all we really ever do is minimize them....

and you can be sure if THEY get one wrong occasionally...someone like you does it even more often...
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Old Mon May 19, 2008, 09:56am
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ESPN - Davidson Admits Mistake


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Davidson readily admitted his mistake to reporters after the game.
"I (expletive) it up. I'm the one who thought it was a (expletive) foul ball. I saw it on the replay. I'm the one who (expletive) it up so you can put that in your paper," Davidson said. "Bolts and nuts, I (expletive) up. You've just got to move on. No one feels worse about it than I do."
Okay you armchair umpires, the guy admits the mistake. So you can all wind down the complaints. Just remember, you guys screw up 100 times worse than the MLB guys do!
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Old Mon May 19, 2008, 10:05am
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If you watch the replay, you can see Fletcher and Marquez say foul as well. It was a crew mistake, not just Davidson.
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Old Mon May 19, 2008, 11:07am
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Yep, they booted it, at least they're man enough to admit they booted it. Can you say the same after you boot one? I screwed up a play while working with on of my evaluator's. I gave him the only answer he wanted...." I expletive it up!!" I knew it immediatly, he knew it, he was happy with my answer, I've moved up, we went on, and my assignments increased.
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Old Mon May 19, 2008, 11:38am
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Just out of curiosity (baseball is not my sport), what's the rule here?

It looked to me as though the ball first struck the wall and then the pole. As soon as it hits the wall in fair territory, it's fair, right? Does it then matter whether it goes out of play fair or foul? They seemed to be making a big deal on tv of the fact that it hit the pole after it hit the wall. What consequence does that have?

I assume that if a batted ball hits the top of the wall in foul territory and then hits the pole (if that is possible) it would be a foul ball. True?
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Old Mon May 19, 2008, 02:51pm
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Might be case for replay

This is probably the only type of play where I can see replay being useful for MLB. Pete I know you've said that for a couple of years.

But he had the call right, my son and I were watching the game and he should have went with his instinct. He let the F7 put the doubt in his mind.

But if PU didn't know he should have said nothing.

In the long run didn't affect the game but could have been huge!

Sure everyone misses a call, but he had this one right and let someone talk him out of it.

If he had gone with fair ball no one from the Yankees was complaining.

As far as mangers, Randolph showed a lot of class in this situation.

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