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Old Sun Apr 26, 2009, 07:32am
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1. I agree with most based on this description that it's nothing. I wonder where the bat was. Was it on the shoulder? In the usual hitting position? (which varies from player to player) Or did the batter move his bat towards the plate as the catcher was throwing? This last instance could become interference. HTBT I guess.

2. If they did call the interference, should it not be R1 who is out instead of the BR. In OBR, the BR is only out if there are two outs. Correct? Is FED different?
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Old Sun Apr 26, 2009, 07:53am
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Jay R,

1. Since the OP said the bat was on the batter's shoulder, I'm guessing it was on his shoulder. As described, this is NOT BI.

2. The only two sitches where the runner is called out on a BI are:

a. When the batter struck out on the pitch and interferes.

b. When the batter interferes with a runner attempting to advance home from 3B with less than 2 outs.

Otherwise, the batter (who is the one who interfered) is called out and the runner(s) return.

If the catcher is successful in his initial attempt to retire a runner despite the interference, the interference is disregarded.

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Old Sun Apr 26, 2009, 07:59am
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Answer to Jay R and UES

To Jay R ... To answer your first question, and you used a better description that I did in my original post, the bat was in "the usual hitting position." The batter was taking all the way.

As to your second question, I was wondering the same.

To UES ... For all intents and purposes, that is the same situation. You handled it as I thought it should have been.
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Old Sun Apr 26, 2009, 08:07am
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1. The batter did not interfere.

2. Intent has nothing to do with it.
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Old Sun Apr 26, 2009, 09:38am
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I look at it this way - Did the batter have time to react and get out of the way? If not (as in your sitch), we have nothing. However, if he just simply stands in the box with ample time to realize something's happening, you could have INT. Standing in the box and not moving doesn't make him immune to INT.
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Old Sun Apr 26, 2009, 11:15am
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I look at it this way - Did the batter have time to react and get out of the way? If not (as in your sitch), we have nothing. However, if he just simply stands in the box with ample time to realize something's happening, you could have INT. Standing in the box and not moving doesn't make him immune to INT.
Yes it does.

Your are confusing interference with a throw from the catcher and interference on a steal of home.
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Old Sun Apr 26, 2009, 11:40am
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Yes it does.

Your are confusing interference with a throw from the catcher and interference on a steal of home.
No I'm not - You are admitting that standing in the box and not moving ON SOME GIVEN SITUATION can create INT on the batter. That's what I said. I didn't specify throw from the catcher, play at the plate, F2 trying to find the ball after dropping it - I simply stated that standing in the box and not moving does not make you immune. If you CAN have INT then where's the confusion. Immune means it cannot happen, period.
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Old Sun Apr 26, 2009, 11:51am
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MIB: Here's what you said: "I look at it this way - Did the batter have time to react and get out of the way? If not (as in your sitch), we have nothing."

With respect to the OP (which is what you were referring to), that reasoning is flawed.
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Old Sun Apr 26, 2009, 12:03pm
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No I'm not - You are admitting that standing in the box and not moving ON SOME GIVEN SITUATION can create INT on the batter. That's what I said. I didn't specify throw from the catcher, play at the plate, F2 trying to find the ball after dropping it - I simply stated that standing in the box and not moving does not make you immune. If you CAN have INT then where's the confusion. Immune means it cannot happen, period.
Most of us were discussing the OP.
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Old Sun Apr 26, 2009, 07:01pm
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2. If they did call the interference, should it not be R1 who is out instead of the BR. In OBR, the BR is only out if there are two outs. Correct? Is FED different?
For OBR, batter is out for all bases regardless of outs except for a play at HP. A play at any other base is as follows.

If runner is retired on catcher's initial throw, no INT. Out stands.

If runner is not retired on catcher's initial throw, batter is out and all runners return to base at TOP.

If play at HP and less than 2 outs, runner is out. If 2 outs, batter is out.
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Old Sun Apr 26, 2009, 09:47pm
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For OBR, batter is out for all bases regardless of outs except for a play at HP. A play at any other base is as follows.

If runner is retired on catcher's initial throw, no INT. Out stands.

If runner is not retired on catcher's initial throw, batter is out and all runners return to base at TOP.

If play at HP and less than 2 outs, runner is out. If 2 outs, batter is out.
Thanks,

I got mixed up between the OP and the play at the plate.
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