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Old Wed Apr 22, 2009, 12:33pm
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What is the big deal?? Two plays and the ump has to stay with the play and adjust his angle. Jeff seemed a bit flustered as he made the call on the second runner first.
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Old Wed Apr 22, 2009, 12:34pm
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I am guessing that he made the out call first on purpose. He pointed at each one so everybody in the stadium knew his call on both runners. I don't think he seemed flustered at all...
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Old Wed Apr 22, 2009, 03:02pm
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What is the big deal?? Two plays and the ump has to stay with the play and adjust his angle. Jeff seemed a bit flustered as he made the call on the second runner first.
He made the most critical call first. His "fluster," as you call it, was his making sure Molina still had the ball, and selling the call. I saw no such fluster and have seen the play from every possible angle. He came back to call Gonzales safe and emphatically point at the plate to indicate that he had it when he went by originally. Great timing, proper sequence, excellent management of a hostile Benji Molina.

Headley knew he was out, but immediately pointed at Gonzales. After the call, both players nodded their head and I saw Gonzales mouthing the words, "good call."
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Old Wed Apr 22, 2009, 04:50pm
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It takes a lot of skill to swing the correct way to read the play...at least for me it took me a while to be confident taking a play third base line extended versus 1BL extended...in the Nelson play, the throw was coming from right so somebody less experienced might line up w/ the throw and be 1BL extended and could've possibly missed the touch by the first runner...unfortunately it's not an exact science...seems as though there's a bit more art to reading those plays than science...others may disagree
You're right, this technique takes practice. I saw the catcher moving up the 3B line and went to 3BLX twice in my game Monday and got a great angle for the (successful) swipe tag both times. It does work when you do it right.
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Old Wed Apr 22, 2009, 10:59pm
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What is the big deal?? Two plays and the ump has to stay with the play and adjust his angle. Jeff seemed a bit flustered as he made the call on the second runner first.
Do you need Jeff's email to tell him he looked flustered?... Looks like good timing here, but hey how would you have called it?...what would your mechanics been?
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Old Thu Apr 23, 2009, 10:12am
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Do you need Jeff's email to tell him he looked flustered?... Looks like good timing here, but hey how would you have called it?...what would your mechanics been?
No I don't need his email to communicate with Jeff. He would probably laugh with me if I told him that. We have worked out of the same locker rooms way back in the day. He probably will also tell you that he thought he was going to get run over by the second runner.

My comment was based on Jeff possibly being too close to the play. I don't think the two calls were that hard, it just looked hard because he was caught in the middle of the flying bodies.

I had never heard of the sniffer comments but I think the OP didn't need any Vicks nasal inhaler to get fired up over this one.

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Old Thu Apr 23, 2009, 10:29pm
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What is the big deal?? Two plays and the ump has to stay with the play and adjust his angle. Jeff seemed a bit flustered as he made the call on the second runner first.
Nobody said it was a big deal. It was just an example of a really good call, done properly. It was meant to serve as a model to other umpires. I've made many similarly great calls over my long career umpiring, but mine are unfortunately not available on video as tutorials. Like I said, he made the call in the proper sequence and with purpose, not out of being flustered, or being too close to the play, which he was not, as that is nearly impossible on tag plays.
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