FED UMPIRES Manual, Let's Start the rewrite

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by cc6

So you're saying that rather than coping with the mechanics manual of the organization they work for, many umpires knowingly go against what the manual teaches them?

No umpires as such work for NFHS. As independent contractors, we work (around here at least) for assignors and leagues. Those organizations do not have their own manuals.

Our association uses the red book.

[jkumpire]

However, you are missing the point. Nobody I know of uses pure FED baseball mechanics, and everyone says "Amen."

But, even though we all teach mechanics differently than FED, we have to remember that: 1. Most FED umpires don't work at it as hard as we do. 2. Most FED umpires need to be told how to do certain things in clear terms.

I mean how many of us really needed to know that you call people safe at 1B if they miss the bag as they go by? Well, there are a lot of FED guys who don't know, and won't know until it is in the FED mechanics book. Also, there are some good points to the FED manual, at least for umpires who work and study only for FED baseball.

The manual could be so much better then it is, if someone (TEE?) would start pushing for changes in what the manual has in it.

[cc6]

Originally Posted by mbyron

No umpires as such work for NFHS. As independent contractors, we work (around here at least) for assignors and leagues. Those organizations do not have their own manuals.

Our association uses the red book.

So why do they even have an NFHS book if nobody works for NFHS?

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by cc6

So why do they even have an NFHS book if nobody works for NFHS?

You have, presumably, an OBR rule book published by MLB. Do you work for MLB?

Same reason.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

You have, presumably, an OBR rule book published by MLB. Do you work for MLB?

Same reason.

You might have to type more slowly for him.

[cc6]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

You have, presumably, an OBR rule book published by MLB. Do you work for MLB?

Same reason.

Obviously I do have an OBR rulebook, but I would never use an MLB interpretations rule book for non-MLB games. I have professional positioning manuals, but I cannot use them because I don't work professional games. You have to use what your organization tells you to use, or at least you should. I don't understand why they don't just stop making FED mechanics manuals if nobody uses them.

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by cc6

Obviously I do have an OBR rulebook, but I would never use an MLB interpretations rule book for non-MLB games. I have professional positioning manuals, but I cannot use them because I don't work professional games.

Guess a lot of people here are wasting money on J/R, Carl's BRD, the Evans manual, etc.

Originally Posted by cc6

You have to use what your organization tells you to use, or at least you should. I don't understand why they don't just stop making FED mechanics manuals if nobody uses them.

And what we are saying is many local associations have adopted CCA or PBUC mechanics. There are entire states, like Oregon, that have done this. The NFHS does not have the power to tell any umpire association or state to use its mechanics.

They keep making Fed manuals because there are still places out there that use it. If you work in those places you probably are stuck with it until you convince those in charge there should be a change.

[cc6]

Originally Posted by SethPDX

Guess a lot of people here are wasting money on J/R, Carl's BRD, the Evans manual, etc.

Including myself.

Originally Posted by SethPDX

And what we are saying is many local associations have adopted CCA or PBUC mechanics. There are entire states, like Oregon, that have done this. The NFHS does not have the power to tell any umpire association or state to use its mechanics.

They keep making Fed manuals because there are still places out there that use it. If you work in those places you probably are stuck with it until you convince those in charge there should be a change.

Looks like the associations are now over-ruling the NFHS. It looks like a bad political struggle is at play here.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by cc6

Looks like the associations are now over-ruling the NFHS. It looks like a bad political struggle is at play here.

There's no overuling going on. No bad political struggle. You obviously do not understand. FED puts puts out a mechanics manual, however they DO NOT mandate that it be used. Got it now? States and associations are free to chose a mechanics manual. Some choose CCA, some chose pro, some chose FED. We do not have a national play-off so there is no issue of umpires coming from different regions using different mechanics.