+POS mask

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

So you require an injury to determine a mask's safety?

No. Every shot a mask takes has the potential to dent the mask or to injure the user. A mask could get dented on the first blow it takes. That doesn't make it a bad mask as all masks (maybe not titanium masks) will dent if they are hit right. The right hit might be on the first hit the mask takes or the 100th.

The same thing happens with injuries. One could get injured using a mask then get a new one and then a 9 months have passed and he hasn't been injured again. That doesn't necessarily mean that the new mask protects better. It is quite possible that the old mask would have provided the same protection as injuries are freak things; they come up randomly. Of course some masks are better than others when it comes to dent resistance and protection but judging that by how long it takes to dent or to injure the user isn't the best grading system.

[johnnyg08]

was your mask fitted properly? the only reason I'm pressing on your concussion from 10 yr old baseball is that I've been blasted w/ my SUL many times, at levels much higher than 10 yr. old ball and certain shots will always sting...but the mask has deflected...not to say it couldn't have happend to me (see LDUB's post) I guess I just never saw or heard of any injuries that occurred simply due to the fact they the ump was wearing the SUL, not that it couldn't have happened because you never know

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

was your mask fitted properly?

Plenty loose. When I bend at the waist, I'll get the chin pad 2-3" off my chin.

Here's my point: A flat mask, like the ol' +POS SUL, will tend to absorb, as opposed to deflect, square shots. My blow was totally absorbed by the mask, as the ball fell at my feet.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by kylejt

Plenty loose. When I bend at the waist, I'll get the chin pad 2-3" off my chin.

Here's my point: A flat mask, like the ol' +POS SUL, will tend to absorb, as opposed to deflect, square shots. My blow was totally absorbed by the mask, as the ball fell at my feet.

I had one like that with the titanium, and unlike the dynalite with the regular pads, the titanium with the wrap-arounds really made it much less jarring.

[johnnyg08]

interesting points.

[johnnyg08]

there's another site out there in cyberspace where a family member of +POS details the reasons for the company shutting down. Many good points made...

[Kevin Finnerty]

Geez, I thought that was posted here.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by LDUB

No. Every shot a mask takes has the potential to dent the mask or to injure the user. A mask could get dented on the first blow it takes. That doesn't make it a bad mask as all masks (maybe not titanium masks) will dent if they are hit right. The right hit might be on the first hit the mask takes or the 100th.

The same thing happens with injuries. One could get injured using a mask then get a new one and then a 9 months have passed and he hasn't been injured again. That doesn't necessarily mean that the new mask protects better. It is quite possible that the old mask would have provided the same protection as injuries are freak things; they come up randomly. Of course some masks are better than others when it comes to dent resistance and protection but judging that by how long it takes to dent or to injure the user isn't the best grading system.

It seems like the pads should be the thing we're discussing. Part of what makes it resilient to a blow is the constitution of the pads.