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Old Wed Dec 31, 2008, 05:20pm
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Last summer, college wood bat league--

Pickoff at second, R2 slides into F4's foot which was in front of the bag (not blocking the entire bag, probably about 1/4 of the bag). F4 tags runner, I call runner out. O head coach want OBS, I say no, the runner had a clear path to the bag, back and forth we go. As he walks away, he says to me, "I am going to tell them to come in spikes high next time."

I did not reply. I did not eject him there, but it did go in the memory bank. If someone had come in maliciously later in the game, I would have ejected the player, then the HC.

All we can do is call the things we see.
I had a similar situation a couple of years ago I was the BU in a FED game between two rival HS's We were watching everything that day because we were warned by our assigner that there may be problems. HC for school "A" stated that he was going to have his people come in "with their nails up". I simply said, "You do what you feel you have to, John, but mark my words, if I eject one of your players for having their nails up, you are going with them, understood?". Happily, no one from school "A" ever came close to having their spikes in the air.

If a coach makes a threat to do something against the rules, you have to tell him right then and there that he is going to suffer the same fate as his player. You must also make sure that if you have to make that ejection, you follow it up with a report stating that you warned the coach after he made the statement.
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Old Fri Jan 02, 2009, 12:37pm
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Hehehehe,

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"Ozzy, you're full of it if you think this is true."
Then quite a few of us are full of it. As Ozzy and Kevin have stated what happens in a locker room (remember the OP does NOT have a face-to-face confrontation) stays in the locker room.

I would be shocked if any one of my partners reacted in anyway to something that is overheard.

Sorry we just see things differently.

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Old Sat Jan 03, 2009, 01:04am
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Then quite a few of us are full of it. As Ozzy and Kevin have stated what happens in a locker room (remember the OP does NOT have a face-to-face confrontation) stays in the locker room.

I would be shocked if any one of my partners reacted in anyway to something that is overheard.

Sorry we just see things differently.

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You mean that the thing in Alaska where officials were penalized cause they were overheard talking about a team and coaches didn't happen? I mean, what happens in the locker room stays in the locker room, after all.

Referee Mag. Editorial on Taped Refs.
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Old Sat Jan 03, 2009, 11:29am
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You mean that the thing in Alaska where officials were penalized cause they were overheard talking about a team and coaches didn't happen? I mean, what happens in the locker room stays in the locker room, after all.

Referee Mag. Editorial on Taped Refs.

Again, just because Rats behave that way doesn't mean officials should.
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Old Sat Jan 03, 2009, 08:56pm
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With all due respect to the officials who are relatively new and inexperienced:You are entitled to your opinion. However, by ripping some of the posts of Umpires who have more experience and knowledge of game mgt than some of you does not earn you respect. Ozzy and some others here have forgotten more about the game than some of you will ever grasp. Voice your thoughts, but realize that many of us here are speaking from experience and work this game several levels above your game.
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Old Sat Jan 03, 2009, 11:43pm
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Ozzy and some others here have forgotten more about the game than some of you will ever grasp. Voice your thoughts, but realize that many of us here are speaking from experience and work this game several levels above your game.
Is this a compliment to Ozzy? Way to forget Ozzy, way to forget

I tossed a Coach one time for his dugout remark that the pard' had Alzheimer's. I think, I don't really remember.
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Have you ever heard the saying, " He has forgotten more about baseball than you will ever know" It is a compliment
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With all due respect to the officials who are relatively new and inexperienced:You are entitled to your opinion. However, by ripping some of the posts of Umpires who have more experience and knowledge of game mgt than some of you does not earn you respect. Ozzy and some others here have forgotten more about the game than some of you will ever grasp. Voice your thoughts, but realize that many of us here are speaking from experience and work this game several levels above your game.
I am very confused by this post. To which officials are you referring? I've read through the posts, and it seems that very experienced officials are disagreeing on this issue. It seems pretty well divided, and I haven't seen any "new" or "inexperienced" umpires responding. Everybody's post I've read have been from very seasoned umpires, who just happen to disagree with one another. Who posted that is "several levels" below Ozzy and others?
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