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Old Wed Dec 31, 2008, 04:07pm
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Last summer, college wood bat league--

Pickoff at second, R2 slides into F4's foot which was in front of the bag (not blocking the entire bag, probably about 1/4 of the bag). F4 tags runner, I call runner out. O head coach want OBS, I say no, the runner had a clear path to the bag, back and forth we go. As he walks away, he says to me, "I am going to tell them to come in spikes high next time."

I did not reply. I did not eject him there, but it did go in the memory bank. If someone had come in maliciously later in the game, I would have ejected the player, then the HC.

All we can do is call the things we see.
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Old Wed Dec 31, 2008, 04:37pm
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Last summer, college wood bat league--

Pickoff at second, R2 slides into F4's foot which was in front of the bag (not blocking the entire bag, probably about 1/4 of the bag). F4 tags runner, I call runner out. O head coach want OBS, I say no, the runner had a clear path to the bag, back and forth we go. As he walks away, he says to me, "I am going to tell them to come in spikes high next time."

I did not reply. I did not eject him there, but it did go in the memory bank. If someone had come in maliciously later in the game, I would have ejected the player, then the HC.

All we can do is call the things we see.
How would you justify EJ'ing the HC? ... coz you know he's gonna say he NEVER told that player to MC the defense.... shoulda got him when he said it... IMHO
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Old Wed Dec 31, 2008, 08:23pm
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How would you justify EJ'ing the HC? ... coz you know he's gonna say he NEVER told that player to MC the defense.... shoulda got him when he said it... IMHO

I would write my report and include everything that happened. I don't really care what the HC says.

How are you going to justify a prophylactic ejection?
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Old Thu Jan 01, 2009, 12:59pm
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I would write my report and include everything that happened. I don't really care what the HC says.

How are you going to justify a prophylactic ejection?
You have fun in court when you had advance notice of an intent to injure and did nothing to stop it.
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Old Thu Jan 01, 2009, 02:46pm
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You have fun in court when you had advance notice of an intent to injure and did nothing to stop it.

Not an attorney, I see.
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Old Thu Jan 01, 2009, 11:23pm
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Not an attorney, I see.
Actually, have a fairly decent law background.
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How are you going to justify a prophylactic ejection?
Now you watch your tongue, there padna!
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Old Sat Jan 03, 2009, 10:51am
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Now you watch your tongue, there padna!
There were several avenues I could have gone with that, but I chose to be the bigger man and pass.

....speaking of a bigger man, congrats on the weight loss, keep up the good work.
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Drink few or none of your calories and you've won half the battle.

This is my weight control tool (instead of Sprite):

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Drink few or none of your calories and you've won half the battle.

This is my weight control tool (instead of Sprite):
I just drink lots of water, Crystal Light, and seltzer w/o sodium. Zero calories. Also eat Nutrisystem meals with lots of veggies and low-glycemic carbs, just as the program specifies.

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At least at the high school level (and lower level college), there is not much equivalent to what happens in basketball or football for that matter. There are no locker rooms to separate teams and officials.

I would say similarly to what I said on the basketball board. If the comments were said after the game, there is a way to handle that at the high school level. You can write up the coach and make others known about the behavior of such an adult (coach). If I have not yet left the field you can eject a coach until you leave the field. And if a coach wants to follow you after the game or comment after the game, then you still can write up a coach.

I had a coach one time follow me off the field in a college game, I wrote the coach up and moved on.

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Old Wed Dec 31, 2008, 05:20pm
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Last summer, college wood bat league--

Pickoff at second, R2 slides into F4's foot which was in front of the bag (not blocking the entire bag, probably about 1/4 of the bag). F4 tags runner, I call runner out. O head coach want OBS, I say no, the runner had a clear path to the bag, back and forth we go. As he walks away, he says to me, "I am going to tell them to come in spikes high next time."

I did not reply. I did not eject him there, but it did go in the memory bank. If someone had come in maliciously later in the game, I would have ejected the player, then the HC.

All we can do is call the things we see.
I had a similar situation a couple of years ago I was the BU in a FED game between two rival HS's We were watching everything that day because we were warned by our assigner that there may be problems. HC for school "A" stated that he was going to have his people come in "with their nails up". I simply said, "You do what you feel you have to, John, but mark my words, if I eject one of your players for having their nails up, you are going with them, understood?". Happily, no one from school "A" ever came close to having their spikes in the air.

If a coach makes a threat to do something against the rules, you have to tell him right then and there that he is going to suffer the same fate as his player. You must also make sure that if you have to make that ejection, you follow it up with a report stating that you warned the coach after he made the statement.
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Old Fri Jan 02, 2009, 12:37pm
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Hehehehe,

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"Ozzy, you're full of it if you think this is true."
Then quite a few of us are full of it. As Ozzy and Kevin have stated what happens in a locker room (remember the OP does NOT have a face-to-face confrontation) stays in the locker room.

I would be shocked if any one of my partners reacted in anyway to something that is overheard.

Sorry we just see things differently.

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Then quite a few of us are full of it. As Ozzy and Kevin have stated what happens in a locker room (remember the OP does NOT have a face-to-face confrontation) stays in the locker room.

I would be shocked if any one of my partners reacted in anyway to something that is overheard.

Sorry we just see things differently.

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You mean that the thing in Alaska where officials were penalized cause they were overheard talking about a team and coaches didn't happen? I mean, what happens in the locker room stays in the locker room, after all.

Referee Mag. Editorial on Taped Refs.
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Old Sat Jan 03, 2009, 11:29am
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You mean that the thing in Alaska where officials were penalized cause they were overheard talking about a team and coaches didn't happen? I mean, what happens in the locker room stays in the locker room, after all.

Referee Mag. Editorial on Taped Refs.

Again, just because Rats behave that way doesn't mean officials should.
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