The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Baseball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 23, 2008, 04:44pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Chasing the dream
Posts: 433
Quote:
Originally Posted by Umpmazza View Post
not in the question.....it was he said "i'm appealing" so he touch home plate not the runner..
From what information you've made available, runner in A, if he touched the plate would be safe. It would be unrelaxed action and F2 needed to tag him.

In "B", we have relaxed action and the runner would be out on the appeal.
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 23, 2008, 06:01pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NorCal
Posts: 338
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ump153 View Post
From what information you've made available, runner in A, if he touched the plate would be safe. It would be unrelaxed action and F2 needed to tag him.

In "B", we have relaxed action and the runner would be out on the appeal.
read the OP.... F2 said Im appealing then threw the ball to 2nd to stop the advancing BR.....
__________________
"My greatest fear is that when I die, my wife will sell my golf clubs for what I told her I paid for them."
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 23, 2008, 06:06pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NorCal
Posts: 338
ok here is the answer...

In (a), R2 is not out and the run counts. F2 would have had to tag him for the appeal. In (b), it is an appeal play and R2 is out since he left the plate area heading for the dugout. The runner has to make an Immediate effort to return, of course this is a judgment call.
__________________
"My greatest fear is that when I die, my wife will sell my golf clubs for what I told her I paid for them."
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 23, 2008, 08:40pm
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Lakeside, California
Posts: 6,724
So....you already knew the answer, but asked everyone just to see who else did? Why? Is there going to be a quiz later on or something?
__________________
Matthew 15:14, 1 Corinthians 1:23-25
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 23, 2008, 11:29pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NorCal
Posts: 338
Quote:
Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve View Post
So....you already knew the answer, but asked everyone just to see who else did? Why? Is there going to be a quiz later on or something?
Yes I knew the answer... I just got the 2009 College study guide book and wanted to throw out some questions...LOL
__________________
"My greatest fear is that when I die, my wife will sell my golf clubs for what I told her I paid for them."
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Wed Dec 24, 2008, 12:28am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Chasing the dream
Posts: 433
Quote:
Originally Posted by Umpmazza View Post
ok here is the answer...

In (a), R2 is not out and the run counts. F2 would have had to tag him for the appeal. In (b), it is an appeal play and R2 is out since he left the plate area heading for the dugout. The runner has to make an Immediate effort to return, of course this is a judgment call.
So, everyone gave you the correct answer, you had no clue as to why they were correct, (as disclosed by your question regarding relaxed and unrelaxed action), and then you repeated their answers in an attempt to demonstrate that even if you didn't know why they were correct, you knew they were correct.

Strange game.
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Wed Dec 24, 2008, 02:37am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NorCal
Posts: 338
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ump153 View Post
So, everyone gave you the correct answer, you had no clue as to why they were correct, (as disclosed by your question regarding relaxed and unrelaxed action), and then you repeated their answers in an attempt to demonstrate that even if you didn't know why they were correct, you knew they were correct.

Strange game.
Not everyone gave correct answer...and I have never heard of the Relaxed or Unrelaxed... that is a Jaska and Roder thing... please show me that in the OBR rules, NCAA rules..

I knew that people had given the right answers... Likek I said i wanted to see if anyone knew the answers.. I had gotten the new study guide...
__________________
"My greatest fear is that when I die, my wife will sell my golf clubs for what I told her I paid for them."
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Wed Dec 24, 2008, 08:48am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 7,620
Quote:
Originally Posted by Umpmazza View Post
Not everyone gave correct answer...and I have never heard of the Relaxed or Unrelaxed... that is a Jaska and Roder thing... please show me that in the OBR rules, NCAA rules..
Please show me where your OP stated the rule set.
__________________
Cheers,
mb
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Wed Dec 24, 2008, 01:28pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NorCal
Posts: 338
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbyron View Post
Please show me where your OP stated the rule set.
What i was referring to was, That I have no idea about J/R manual...What i said was the Relaxed and unrelaxed is not any any of the rules books.... So I know I need the J/R manual.
__________________
"My greatest fear is that when I die, my wife will sell my golf clubs for what I told her I paid for them."
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Wed Dec 24, 2008, 10:39am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Newburgh NY
Posts: 1,822
[QUOTE]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Umpmazza View Post
Not everyone gave correct answer...and I have never heard of the Relaxed or Unrelaxed... that is a Jaska and Roder thing... please show me that in the OBR rules, NCAA rules..
As been stated you will NOT find the terms Re-laxed / Un-relaxed action in the rule book.

Since you said that is a Jaska and Roder thing.. it's apparent that you do not adhere to authoritative opinion concerning the rules.

It has been noted that there are some 230 errors contained in the OBR rule-book and that's why it's important at least IMO to have supplemental materials such as the J/R manual to better explain the rules through case play examples.

Pete Booth
__________________
Peter M. Booth
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Wed Dec 24, 2008, 11:40am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Southern California
Posts: 1,895
I suppose there is a difference between errors and insufficiencies. The 230 number covers a lot more than just errors in the rules.
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Wed Dec 24, 2008, 01:27pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NorCal
Posts: 338
[QUOTE=PeteBooth;561384]
Quote:

As been stated you will NOT find the terms Re-laxed / Un-relaxed action in the rule book.

Since you said that is a Jaska and Roder thing.. it's apparent that you do not adhere to authoritative opinion concerning the rules.

It has been noted that there are some 230 errors contained in the OBR rule-book and that's why it's important at least IMO to have supplemental materials such as the J/R manual to better explain the rules through case play examples.

Pete Booth
Pete your right I dont have a Jaska and Roder book.. Its on my Xmas list...LOL
__________________
"My greatest fear is that when I die, my wife will sell my golf clubs for what I told her I paid for them."
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Wed Dec 24, 2008, 07:59pm
DG DG is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 4,022
Quote:
Originally Posted by Umpmazza View Post
I have never heard of the Relaxed or Unrelaxed... that is a Jaska and Roder thing... please show me that in the OBR rules, NCAA rules..
If you depend only on the rule books you will never be a good umpire. You must get supplemental study materials that explain in greater detail, and/or explain what is not explained by the written rules.
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Thu Dec 25, 2008, 01:51pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NorCal
Posts: 338
Quote:
Originally Posted by DG View Post
If you depend only on the rule books you will never be a good umpire. You must get supplemental study materials that explain in greater detail, and/or explain what is not explained by the written rules.
I actually don't think this is true.... BTW I have a CCA manual, both PBUC's, and the MLB umpire Manual, NFHS rules by topic.
__________________
"My greatest fear is that when I die, my wife will sell my golf clubs for what I told her I paid for them."
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Wed Dec 24, 2008, 11:18am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 99
The state of the US and this whole recession thing is making me feel unrelaxed!!
Closed Thread

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Missed Home Plate Appeal crewumpires Baseball 7 Mon May 19, 2008 11:22am
Missed Home Plate Chess Ref Softball 20 Fri May 09, 2008 12:07pm
85% missed this one lawump Baseball 69 Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:23pm
Missed Home Plate tibear Baseball 6 Wed Apr 25, 2007 03:51pm
runner missed home plate crumii Softball 5 Tue Oct 05, 2004 05:41pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:49pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1