"Clearly" beat the throw?

[chuckfan1]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

My take: He was trying to debunk the myth that "the tie goes to the runner."

I dont think it was that...the students attending this camp were not just guys off the boat , new to the field. These were all officials who have been around, do college baseball, some at D1 level.
The instruction was advanced due to the caliber of instructors as well as the students. All there were well beyond that myth.
The camp/clinic was to advance our education on 3-man.

Parontos comment was one small aspect of the field demonstration he was giving. When he emphasized the "clearly" I took it as thats straight out of the book. I looked for it but couldnt find it. And was just asking if anyone could give me latitude/longitude of where that passage is in the book..thanks.

[bobbybanaduck]

it's likely along the lines of the collegiate "strike" zone. the assignors/evaluators want a huge zone. they want strikes, which lead to outs, which leads to game over. close play at first? he wasn't CLEARLY safe? nevermind that closeness, just go ahead and bang him out. it'll get you off the field faster. super philosophy.

[Emperor Ump]

Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck

it's likely along the lines of the collegiate "strike" zone. the assignors/evaluators want a huge zone. they want strikes, which lead to outs, which leads to game over. close play at first? he wasn't CLEARLY safe? nevermind that closeness, just go ahead and bang him out. it'll get you off the field faster. super philosophy.

This was my take too after reading the OP. Get the outs where you can.

[David B]

Originally Posted by chuckfan1

I dont think it was that...the students attending this camp were not just guys off the boat , new to the field. These were all officials who have been around, do college baseball, some at D1 level.
The instruction was advanced due to the caliber of instructors as well as the students. All there were well beyond that myth.
The camp/clinic was to advance our education on 3-man.

Parontos comment was one small aspect of the field demonstration he was giving. When he emphasized the "clearly" I took it as thats straight out of the book. I looked for it but couldnt find it. And was just asking if anyone could give me latitude/longitude of where that passage is in the book..thanks.

I agree with Bob. There are experienced officials who have a hard time banging the close one at first. Sounds like a hard sell approach to the 'tie goes to the runner".

thanks
David

[RPatrino]

There is a simple reason why some don't like to 'bang' the close outs at first. It's easier, and it eliminates some of the moans and groans on the close ones.

I was doing a LL Senior Divisional game at 1b, and there were spectators right along the 1b line, who had a REAL good view of plays at 1b. I called several bang-bang plays there, all outs, and after every play they fans would groan and moan. Then they would quietly say..." good call, blue"...

[griff901c]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

There is a simple reason why some don't like to 'bang' the close outs at first. It's easier, and it eliminates some of the moans and groans on the close ones.

I was doing a LL Senior Divisional game at 1b, and there were spectators right along the 1b line, who had a REAL good view of plays at 1b. I called several bang-bang plays there, all outs, and after every play they fans would groan and moan. Then they would quietly say..." good call, blue"...

Bob....I was there..trust me they weren't talking about you...

griff