MLB umpire camp?

[Kevin Finnerty]

And fine unions they are and have always been.

Baseball first!

[SanDiegoSteve]

There are still a boatload of big name former MLB umpires there, from Palermo to Springstead to Froemming just to name a few. It sounds like a pretty decent one-week camp.

[umpjayfire]

Definitely, from a schmoozing stand point, it would be cool to meet the legends like Froemming, Springstead and Palermo. But, do you all think that from a standpoint of 2-man umpiring, which is what I do in HS, it is worth it...really...do you think Froemming could add valuable input toward 2man umpiring?...He hasn't done it in a million years and physically he couldn't do it.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by umpjayfire

Definitely, from a schmoozing stand point, it would be cool to meet the legends like Froemming, Springstead and Palermo. But, do you all think that from a standpoint of 2-man umpiring, which is what I do in HS, it is worth it...really...do you think Froemming could add valuable input toward 2man umpiring?...He hasn't done it in a million years and physically he couldn't do it.

Neither can Palermo, obviously, or even Marty Springstead, but they are not the field instructors anyway. However, I think all of these former MLB umpires would be invaluable in the classroom setting and would have a lot of knowledge and experience to pass on.

[socalblue1]

They bring in local NCAA & former MiLB folks for on field work.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by socalblue1

They bring in local NCAA & former MiLB folks for on field work.

Don't forget the scabs that will be there.

Bottom line, if you want to become a better umpire, attend one of Jim Evans Classics. If you want to hear war stories and shmooze with over the hill umpires who have turned their backs on their former union and partners, attend the Compton clinic.

[umpduck11]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Don't forget the scabs that will be there.

Bottom line, if you want to become a better umpire, attend one of Jim Evans Classics. If you want to hear war stories and shmooze with over the hill umpires who have turned their backs on their former union and partners, attend the Compton clinic.

Hey,don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by umpjayfire

Definitely, from a schmoozing stand point, it would be cool to meet the legends like Froemming, Springstead and Palermo. But, do you all think that from a standpoint of 2-man umpiring, which is what I do in HS, it is worth it...really...do you think Froemming could add valuable input toward 2man umpiring?...He hasn't done it in a million years and physically he couldn't do it.

The legends describe the mechanics and the minor league and college guys demonstrate. It's pretty cool.

Palermo's worth it all by himself.

[Umpmazza]

Originally Posted by umpjayfire

Definitely, from a schmoozing stand point, it would be cool to meet the legends like Froemming, Springstead and Palermo. But, do you all think that from a standpoint of 2-man umpiring, which is what I do in HS, it is worth it...really...do you think Froemming could add valuable input toward 2man umpiring?...He hasn't done it in a million years and physically he couldn't do it.

I dont ever think you can put a price on training and education.

[Publius]

Originally Posted by Umpmazza

I dont ever think you can put a price on training and education.

Every clinic I have ever attended had a price attached to it.

[Umpmazza]

Originally Posted by Publius

Every clinic I have ever attended had a price attached to it.

dude...what im trying to say... is the training will be worth every penny. man some people ...and BTW there is a price tag.. look at the web site it will tell you how much it cost.

[Klokard]

I have attended the MLB camp at the Compton facility, both the 1 week and the one day. They do teach the basics such as the pivot, out call, safe call, etc... so it is not really a great camp for the experienced ump looking to improve. It was worth it to me to be able to hear some war stories from the ol' grizzlies that speak. Also I had Larry Young as the instructor in the cage. After the camp he asked me who I worked for and sent glowing evals to my College assignors. Very classy.

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

And fine unions they are and have always been.

Baseball first!

You are correct. They are fine unions who believe in placing baseball first, not publicity stunts like the MLB umpire camp. Their members work hard at both pro schools and numerous clinics around the country really educating and training amateur umpires instead of posing for the media in southern California.

[socalblue1]

Compton is an adult umpire fantasy camp. Given that, the ability to spend some time with Bruce, Steve and a few other select folks would be worth the time.

The field staff has improved since I last looked. There a few guys there that can teach (Hiler, Felt & Bauza). Larry Young is very good on rules.

Will it be equal to Evans? No, as they will need to instruct to the lowest level (And it will be really LOW).

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by Ump153

You are correct. They are fine unions who believe in placing baseball first, not publicity stunts like the MLB umpire camp. Their members work hard at both pro schools and numerous clinics around the country really educating and training amateur umpires instead of posing for the media in southern California.

Really? Did you ever go to the So. Cal camp? It wasn't what you describe.