Joe West ejection

[Steven Tyler]

Anybody see where "Country" Joe West tossed Bobby Cox in the first game of the Cubs/Braves doubleheader? Apprantley it was beginning to get overcast. The stadium crew turned the lights on before the beginning of an inning was the reason for the ejection. I could be misinformed as I didn't see nor hear all the discussion.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

Anybody see where "Country" Joe West tossed Bobby Cox in the first game of the Cubs/Braves doubleheader? Apprantley it was beginning to get overcast. The stadium crew turned the lights on before the beginning of an inning was the reason for the ejection. I could be misinformed as I didn't see nor hear all the discussion.

"Someone" turned the lights on. West ordered them off. Cox argued and got ejected. The lights stayed off until the start of the next inning (as is good practice, but not a rule).

[PeteBooth]

The way the Braves are playing lately Cox probably thanked West. The Braves got 'drilled" both games

Pete Booth

[SAump]

The lights were turned on to start the bottom of the fourth, but West ordered them shut off after back-to-back doubles by the Braves because the Cubs batted without the lights in the top of the inning under overcast skies.

The ejection occurred before Braves reliever Vladimir Nunez completed his warmup pitches in the top of the fifth. The 68-year-old Cox began yelling at West, who would not let Nunez to deliver his first pitch until the lights took their full effect.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slu...v=st&type=lgns

Question. Joe is the UIC on this crew. Was he working the plate that game?

[TonyT]

When MLB got rid of Joe West when he resigned several years ago he should of never of been allowed to come back. he is nothing but trouble and thinks fans pay to watch him, it is one controversy after another. His ego gets in the way. Cowboy Joe should ride off in the sunset and never be heard from again!!!!!!!!!!!

[mrm21711]

Originally Posted by SAump

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slu...v=st&type=lgns

Question. Joe is the UIC on this crew. Was he working the plate that game?

No, Rapuano was. West was at 2B.

[socalumps]

Originally Posted by TonyT

When MLB got rid of Joe West when he resigned several years ago he should of never of been allowed to come back. he is nothing but trouble and thinks fans pay to watch him, it is one controversy after another. His ego gets in the way. Cowboy Joe should ride off in the sunset and never be heard from again!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess thats one opinion!!!!!!

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by TonyT

When MLB got rid of Joe West when he resigned several years ago he should of never of been allowed to come back. he is nothing but trouble and thinks fans pay to watch him, it is one controversy after another. His ego gets in the way. Cowboy Joe should ride off in the sunset and never be heard from again!!!!!!!!!!!

I've seen Joe West make some of the best calls I've ever seen on some real bangers. He has a keen eye and really exceptional judgment. He just doesn't put up with a bunch of crap, so to some people he appears aloof and egotistical (and since when is that a bad trait for an umpire anyway?). I'll sure take him over some of the newer guys and vacation replacements they're trotting out there lately.

[gordon30307]

Joe West and Bruce Froehming why are they still working games? No way can they properly cover fly balls. When instant replay comes MLB will never be able to get rid of these guys! MLB seems to be the only major sport where officials can't be fired if they no longer can do the job.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by gordon30307

Joe West and Bruce Froehming why are they still working games? No way can they properly cover fly balls. When instant replay comes MLB will never be able to get rid of these guys! MLB seems to be the only major sport where officials can't be fired if they no longer can do the job.

Well, Bruce retired, so what are you talking about? And properly cover fly balls? WTF are you again talking about? How close to the play do you really need the umpire to be? West gets angles, which is the object of the game on fly ball coverage. You don't need to sprint out there and get right on top of the fielders. He can hustle out there when he needs to. I know this because I've actually seen him do it.

Froemming too, he could run his little stubby a$$ off, and would challenge to race and beat guys like you who thought he was slow. Sure he lost a couple of steps, who hasn't? But he still hustled on the field. Just because these older guys don't sprint around like little jackrabbits, don't think they can't get around on the ballfield.

Joe West has only 3 ejections this year, so I guess he must be getting a lot of calls right, like he always does. He sure doesn't blow many. When he starts getting a lot of calls wrong (which he doesn't), then maybe the league will tell him to get out. Until then, he is a Major League Umpire, and guys like Todd Tichenor and Rob Drake, who are still wet behind the ears, have a long way to go to get to his level

[gordon30307]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Well, Bruce retired, so what are you talking about? And properly cover fly balls? WTF are you again talking about? How close to the play do you really need the umpire to be? West gets angles, which is the object of the game on fly ball coverage. You don't need to sprint out there and get right on top of the fielders. He can hustle out there when he needs to. I know this because I've actually seen him do it.

Froemming too, he could run his little stubby a$$ off, and would challenge to race and beat guys like you who thought he was slow. Sure he lost a couple of steps, who hasn't? But he still hustled on the field. Just because these older guys don't sprint around like little jackrabbits, don't think they can't get around on the ballfield.

Joe West has only 3 ejections this year, so I guess he must be getting a lot of calls right, like he always does. He sure doesn't blow many. When he starts getting a lot of calls wrong (which he doesn't), then maybe the league will tell him to get out. Until then, he is a Major League Umpire, and guys like Todd Tichenor and Rob Drake, who are still wet behind the ears, have a long way to go to get to his level

Never said they didn't hustle, however I've seen them cover fly balls and they're slower than molasses in January. You do agree (not necessarily referring to Bruce or Joe) it's impossible to get rid of umpires in MLB if there performance deteriorates.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Cox's career ejections: 142

Cox's season ejections: 6

I'm sensing a pattern here. Oh yeah, I see now...Cox is a big fat rat.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by gordon30307

You do agree (not necessarily referring to Bruce or Joe) it's impossible to get rid of umpires in MLB if there performance deteriorates.

MLB did tell Froemming that it was time to go. They have their ways of letting umpires know when it's their time, without just coming out and firing them. After all, they deserve to go out in style after having stellar careers, just like any other long-time employee. They let Doug Harvey hang around a couple of years past retirement age because....well because he was God, that's because why!

[gordon30307]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

MLB did tell Froemming that it was time to go. They have their ways of letting umpires know when it's their time, without just coming out and firing them. After all, they deserve to go out in style after having stellar careers, just like any other long-time employee. They let Doug Harvey hang around a couple of years past retirement age because....well because he was God, that's because why!

This is MLB. Players are cut all the time even the great ones are cut or traded when they don't know when to let go. In the NBA and NFL there are guys almost every year whose contracts aren't renewed. When was the last time this happened in MLB? Thank God for the strike otherwise Eric Gregg (may he rest in peace. I'm sure he was a fine person and his family misses him.) would have been calling strikes on balls a foot outside for another 5 or 6 years.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by gordon30307

This is MLB. Players are cut all the time even the great ones are cut or traded when they don't know when to let go. In the NBA and NFL there are guys almost every year whose contracts aren't renewed. When was the last time this happened in MLB? Thank God for the strike otherwise Eric Gregg (may he rest in peace. I'm sure he was a fine person and his family misses him.) would have been calling strikes on balls a foot outside for another 5 or 6 years.

You're assuming he did that every night based on one game?