Legion Baseball Question

[SAump]

Originally Posted by Gmoore

I have read thru the legion rule book that I have but cant seem to find the answers I am looking for:

1. If the umpire feels the batter made no effort in avoiding being hit is the pitch called on location as to where it is either a ball or a strike

2. Can a player coach be ejected after the game is over?

1. Award the base most of the time, even if it was a ball. Don't get into a habit of holding batters back on a hit-by-pitch even if the batter made no effort to move out of the way. If it was a strike, its okay to have him stay right there.
2. Ball game! You didn't see anything after the game was over. If you did see something of interest, notify the proper authorities. You are no longer the guy in charge.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by SAump

2. Ball game! You didn't see anything after the game was over. If you did see something of interest, notify the proper authorities. You are no longer the guy in charge.

I don't think so....................

Here's a hypothetical:

Losing teams assistant coach walks up to you and your partner as you're trying to exit the field after the game is over. He tells the both of you, "You're the worst f&*$%#in umpires I've ever seen. You gave us a real F$*&%#in out there tonight."

I can promise you that I would immediately issue a post game ejection for something like this.


Tim.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

I can promise you that I would immediately issue a post game ejection for something like this.

great, what's the rule??

[Gmoore]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

I don't think so....................

Here's a hypothetical:

Losing teams assistant coach walks up to you and your partner as you're trying to exit the field after the game is over. He tells the both of you, "You're the worst f&*$%#in umpires I've ever seen. You gave us a real F$*&%#in out there tonight."

I can promise you that I would immediately issue a post game ejection for something like this.


Tim.

Removing the F words this is kinda what happened I was not umpiring the game but the losing coach and plate umpire were not telling each other "good game" The coach later ask me if he could be ejected after the game, my reply was the umpire is in charge til he leaves the playing field I know that may be a NFHS rule, But i can not find that verbage in OBR or Legion Rules

There are different opinions here can anyone provide the "official" ruling?

[DG]

I hope you are not thinking about what rule to use use to toss when this happens. Take care of business before you leave, and then report per 9.05a and 9.05b and then league president is required to follow 9.05c and apply whatever penalites deem necessary. Often there is not a next game penalty anyway, so get your satisfaction before you leave.

[johnnyg08]

Right, so it's not a post game ejection...the penalty is applied by the league. It's probably more of a post game conduct report. Just saying.

[Gmoore]

Originally Posted by DG

I hope you are not thinking about what rule to use use to toss when this happens. Take care of business before you leave, and then report per 9.05a and 9.05b and then league president is required to follow 9.05c and apply whatever penalites deem necessary. Often there is not a next game penalty anyway, so get your satisfaction before you leave.

I am not looking for the rule to use I just want to know if you can eject a player or a coach after the 3rd out is made to end the game.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Gmoore

I am not looking for the rule to use I just want to know if you can eject a player or a coach after the 3rd out is made to end the game.

It depends on the league.

You can always write a report. Some leagues, though, won't take much action on the report if there wasn't also an ejjection.

[Rcichon]

jurisdiction ends when you exit thru the fence. Until then, your authority is clear and what you see and/or hear is subject to what you see or hear...



IMHO.

Then again, if you officiate shaving age softball in our town and later, a player comes up to you say, in a bar or shopping mall, engages you in argument or voices objection to a call you made in a previous game (or worse), that player has violated a M.A.S.A. rule and is subject to disciplinary action including disqualification.

FWIW

[Gmoore]

Originally Posted by SAump

But was the ejection warranted or was that other offer to join your partner for a free coke and a hotdog more important?

I had no dog in the fight, I was just ask the simple question by the coach if he could be ejected after the game had ended.

"The umpire shall immediately eject from the game any individuals violating this regulation"..... The game was over the 3rd out had been recorded, the teams had shook hands, on the way back to the dugout the coach asked the umpire a question about a call, the home plate umpire was still on the playing field observing the hand shake.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Gmoore

The game was over the 3rd out had been recorded, the teams had shook hands, on the way back to the dugout the coach asked the umpire a question about a call, the home plate umpire was still on the playing field observing the hand shake.

In my opinion, this is where the umpire went wrong. The last sentence should have read, "...the coach wanted to yell at the umpire about a call, but both umpires were already out the gate and on their way to the parking lot, so the coach had to go screw himself."

Or words to that effect.

Originally Posted by SAump

1. Award the base most of the time, even if it was a ball. Don't get into a habit of holding batters back on a hit-by-pitch even if the batter made no effort to move out of the way.

Wham! Here we are, back 5 years on this rule.