Mets v Mariners

[SanDiegoSteve]

By the way, Jerry Manuel does not agree. He said he would not want Brian Runge to be fined or suspended, that a simple apology would be fine with him. They both shook hands and were cordial with each other at their next plate meeting. I think the Met's new skipper knows that it wasn't all Brian's fault like everyone is trying to make it seem.

[kcg NC2Ablu]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

By the way, Jerry Manuel does not agree. He said he would not want Brian Runge to be fined or suspended, that a simple apology would be fine with him. They both shook hands and were cordial with each other at their next plate meeting. I think the Met's new skipper knows that it wasn't all Brian's fault like everyone is trying to make it seem.

It WAS his fault.... Brain STEPPED to him why would you step at someone to eject them.... you should turn as to makes sure your not going to hit them with your body or your hand.... thats what I have been taught at the camps I have been to and its been on evaluations. so I think trying to defend brian as far as the bump goes is a loosing arguement. However both the manager and beltran were legit ejections

[mbyron]

This quibbling is a little silly, given that we have only a fraction of the facts. Why not see what the league does? Unless Runge is fined or suspended, I think the proper conclusion is that he handled the situation correctly.

I don't suppose all the details will ever be made public. So to reach a detailed conclusion would be whistling in the dark.

[Jurassic Referee]

Apparently Runge apologized to Manuel yesterday for his actions.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06262008...uel_117304.htm

[JR12]

First I see beltran turn his head, look right at Rungee and start jawing.(not looking down) it was obvious to the announcers that he didnt like the call. However Rungee then tried to one up Beltran by speaking to him(mask off) BEFORE cleaning the plate.
Manuel should have went earlier. IMO

[mattmets]

Originally Posted by JR12

First I see beltran turn his head, look right at Rungee and start jawing.(not looking down) it was obvious to the announcers that he didnt like the call. However Rungee then tried to one up Beltran by speaking to him(mask off) BEFORE cleaning the plate.
Manuel should have went earlier. IMO

Am I the only one who thinks if Brian had cleaned the plate THEN spoken to Beltran, Beltran would have gotten the negative press for being aggressive/whiny? IMO, Brian's unmasking, then talking to Beltran, then cleaning the plate is what made him look aggressive, even though his initial intent was to tell Beltran to shut up and keep playing ball. Not to defend Beltran or Manuel at all, because Manuel had NO business leaving the dugout, but despite Brian's intentions I think he LOOKS bad to everybody but umpires who know what he was doing (ie the idiots I heard on XM yesterday who said there was no excuse for him to take off his mask and talk to Beltran because he "wasn't being shown up".)

[ozzy6900]

Well everyone, I didn't loose any sleep, pay or games because of this whole thing. The concerned parties "made nice-nice" and the world moves on! More that I can say for this thread of 5 pages of useless arguing! Get on with your lives, I'm sure that you all have games that you can discuss with the rest of us.