body position for Position B and C

[CO ump]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

How are you going to execute that crucial 1st step if you are at a 45 degree angle to the foul line. It's not a matter of "I can beat so-and-so to my position." It's a matter of I can get to the cutout in several steps less than you and probably much quicker. On pickoffs, I take a full step up and pivot on my left foot as I was taught by the pros. Perfect positioning to see the play. There is no need to cheat towards the 1st base line in my stance. It is not an advantage to be turned sideways to the plate. Being able to react quickly to any situation is far more of an advantage.

I'm not arguing that the book is wrong. I'm just saying that I prefer not having to take that step on a pickoff if I don't have to. Some of those pickoffs are so quick that you're not set at the tag or just barely so.
The way I set up I just turn my head, no change in elevation, no over the shoulder, no body movement. I think it's hard to argue that that is less effecient than a body turn.

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

It's not a matter of "I can beat so-and-so to my position." It's a matter of I can get to the cutout in several steps less than you and probably much quicker..

I doubt it.
At a 45 deg. angle my right foot(heel to heel) is displaced 18-20" from square up to home.
My initial drop step is 20" longer than yours and then we're the same.
It would be difficult to calculate the part of a second it takes to cover that 20"
I can't recall ever being out of position on a straight steal at second


I think Bob hit it on the nose. The real drawback to my position is Perception.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by CO ump

I'm not arguing that the book is wrong. I'm just saying that I prefer not having to take that step on a pickoff if I don't have to. Some of those pickoffs are so quick that you're not set at the tag or just barely so.
The way I set up I just turn my head, no change in elevation, no over the shoulder, no body movement. I think it's hard to argue that that is less effecient than a body turn.

Taking that step gets you the angle. Assuming you are about 40 feet from the base, getting about 7 feet with a step and a pivot gives you 10 degrees more. That can mean the difference between seeing a tag or a$$es and elbows.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by CO ump

I'm not arguing that the book is wrong. I'm just saying that I prefer not having to take that step on a pickoff if I don't have to. Some of those pickoffs are so quick that you're not set at the tag or just barely so.
The way I set up I just turn my head, no change in elevation, no over the shoulder, no body movement.

I've seen umpires set up so that they only have to turn their heads on pick-offs instead of taking a step to get the proper angle. They usually wore ball bags and cleaned off the rubber between innings.

[CO ump]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

I've seen umpires set up so that they only have to turn their heads on pick-offs instead of taking a step to get the proper angle. They usually wore ball bags and cleaned off the rubber between innings.

My base brush is to big for my pocket so how else am I to carry it?