2-man mechanics

[buckeyetc71]

I don't have my NFHS Umpire Manual with me but I believe in the two man mechanics section this IS a rotation situation for FED. PU rotates to third for possible play and BU watches tag, ensures R2 is going to third and, in case of bad throw to third, rotates to home for possible play there.
If someone has the manual handy please correct me if I'm wrong.

[mbyron]

I don't know anyone who uses the FED manual for anything other than a coaster.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by buckeyetc71

I don't have my NFHS Umpire Manual with me but I believe in the two man mechanics section this IS a rotation situation for FED. PU rotates to third for possible play and BU watches tag, ensures R2 is going to third and, in case of bad throw to third, rotates to home for possible play there.
If someone has the manual handy please correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't know how much these manuals change, hence, I asked the question. I have a manual from 2001-2002, and it says:

(p 44) PU...5. Call Safe/Out on R1 advancing after a caught fly ball, except a fly down the right-field line....

(p 45) BU...Move to line up the tag of R1 advancing to third after a caught fly ball; PU had the play at third...If PU has gone down the right-field line to rule catch/no catch or foul/fair, you must take R1 into third base.

I didn't know if the mechanic changed or if that mechanic isn't used.

mbyron-

lol...I guess that's why I have such an old manual

-Josh

[Rich]

Originally Posted by buckeyetc71

I don't have my NFHS Umpire Manual with me but I believe in the two man mechanics section this IS a rotation situation for FED. PU rotates to third for possible play and BU watches tag, ensures R2 is going to third and, in case of bad throw to third, rotates to home for possible play there.
If someone has the manual handy please correct me if I'm wrong.

I would, except mine hits the trash the second it arrives (as soon as I verify they still expect the PU to take third on a bases-empty triple when the BU doesn't go out.)

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by buckeyetc71

I don't have my NFHS Umpire Manual with me but I believe in the two man mechanics section this IS a rotation situation for FED. PU rotates to third for possible play and BU watches tag, ensures R2 is going to third and, in case of bad throw to third, rotates to home for possible play there.
If someone has the manual handy please correct me if I'm wrong.

What's a FED manual? We were never issued them nor mailed them. We used CCA and pro mechanics only. We always had a good laugh over the FED rule book's signal chart too.

[DG]

Originally Posted by buckeyetc71

I don't have my NFHS Umpire Manual with me but I believe in the two man mechanics section this IS a rotation situation for FED. PU rotates to third for possible play and BU watches tag, ensures R2 is going to third and, in case of bad throw to third, rotates to home for possible play there.

FED manual also tells PU to watch "runner on 2B", R1 in the manual (sigh), touch 3b and be prepared to cover a play on him advancing to the plate or a play on him returning to 3B.

I don't throw it in the trash when I get it, but I don't pay it any attention until a question like this is asked.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by DG

FED manual also tells PU to watch "runner on 2B", R1 in the manual (sigh), touch 3b and be prepared to cover a play on him advancing to the plate or a play on him returning to 3B.

I don't throw it in the trash when I get it, but I don't pay it any attention until a question like this is asked.

Oh, another reason I toss it. When they name runners normally (R1 is never on anything but first base) I may give it a second glance.

We work college/pro mechanics in HS games (those umpires around here that simply don't run into the outfield as base umpires on every fly ball, that is).

[Fritz]

since we're talking 2-man mechanics, here is another question that regularly gets debated among the crew around my area:

R3, 2 outs; BU sets up in B not C to anticipate the next play on the infield which will generally be at 1B for the 3rd out. But that is not shown on most mechanics diagrams I've seen.

or,

R1 & R3, less than 2 outs; BU sets up in B not C to be in a better position to call a double play attempt AND because most high school and below ball has 1st/3rd gimmick plays with the SS taking a short throw from the catcher where BU's C position is. Again, most mechanics diagrams put BU in C in this sitch.

What do you normally do and why?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Fritz

since we're talking 2-man mechanics, here is another question that regularly gets debated among the crew around my area:

R3, 2 outs; BU sets up in B not C to anticipate the next play on the infield which will generally be at 1B for the 3rd out. But that is not shown on most mechanics diagrams I've seen.

I stay in C. I can get to the needed spot for a play at first just as easily from C as I can from B.

R1 & R3, less than 2 outs; BU sets up in B not C to be in a better position to call a double play attempt AND because most high school and below ball has 1st/3rd gimmick plays with the SS taking a short throw from the catcher where BU's C position is. Again, most mechanics diagrams put BU in C in this sitch.

What do you normally do and why?

I'm in B whenver a steal of second is possible.

[David B]

Originally Posted by Fritz

since we're talking 2-man mechanics, here is another question that regularly gets debated among the crew around my area:

R3, 2 outs; BU sets up in B not C to anticipate the next play on the infield which will generally be at 1B for the 3rd out. But that is not shown on most mechanics diagrams I've seen.

or,

R1 & R3, less than 2 outs; BU sets up in B not C to be in a better position to call a double play attempt AND because most high school and below ball has 1st/3rd gimmick plays with the SS taking a short throw from the catcher where BU's C position is. Again, most mechanics diagrams put BU in C in this sitch.

What do you normally do and why?

I've seen this a lot also, but I stay in B most all of the time anyway with 2-man.

Second situation, I'm with Bob. If there is a DP chance, I'm staying in B.

Reason - I've tried other ways, and this is what I've found works very well for me.

Thanks
David