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Old Fri May 23, 2008, 11:18am
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I'll flash back the count as soon as I'm done cleaning off the bases - unless I'm heading to the mound to give the number of outs and situation to the relief pitcher.
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Old Fri May 23, 2008, 02:52pm
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I'll flash back the count as soon as I'm done cleaning off the bases - unless I'm heading to the mound to give the number of outs and situation to the relief pitcher.
That's the coach's job. What happens if somehow you give wrong information?

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Old Fri May 23, 2008, 03:01pm
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Bob - said tongue in cheek. It's been a LONG running gag in here, cleaning bases and giving situations to the pitcher.
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Old Sat May 24, 2008, 03:31pm
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"PU should show count when count adds up to 3 or 5, or after the balls becomes dead and is put back in play."

This ties for the dumbest post ever made on the internet.
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"PU should show count when count adds up to 3 or 5, "

This ties for the dumbest post ever made on the internet.

This is the timing prescribed by the Alabama High School Umpire Manual.
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Old Sun May 25, 2008, 07:29pm
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This is the timing prescribed by the Alabama High School Umpire Manual.
That confirm's Tee's post, then. Thanks.
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That confirm's Tee's post, then. Thanks.
How so ?
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Old Sun May 25, 2008, 09:49pm
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"PU should show count when count adds up to 3 or 5, or after the balls becomes dead and is put back in play."

This ties for the dumbest post ever made on the internet.
I'm not giving the count at 1-0 or 0-1.
If you feel the need to give it after 2 pitches then what stops you from feeling the need to give it after 4? Then good decorum requires you to show it at 3-2. Now you've given the count three times in one at bat. Now that could qualify for a dumb thing.
If you don't want to look like a first grader learning to count on his fingers after every pitch then after 3 and full count is a good rule of thumb.

We've gone 3 pages talking about base umpires and counts.
I think the 3-5 and after dead balls was the first real practical post for newer umps on this thread.

Maybe you should remember that not everyone on the board has been umping for 30 years.
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Old Sun May 25, 2008, 10:10pm
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I'm not giving the count at 1-0 or 0-1.
If you feel the need to give it after 2 pitches then what stops you from feeling the need to give it after 4? Then good decorum requires you to show it at 3-2. Now you've given the count three times in one at bat. Now that could qualify for a dumb thing.
If you don't want to look like a first grader learning to count on his fingers after every pitch then after 3 and full count is a good rule of thumb.

We've gone 3 pages talking about base umpires and counts.
I think the 3-5 and after dead balls was the first real practical post for newer umps on this thread.

Maybe you should remember that not everyone on the board has been umping for 30 years.
I remember watching Jim Evans umpire. He gave the count after just about every pitch. Kills your theory.
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Old Mon May 26, 2008, 12:51am
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I remember watching Jim Evans umpire. He gave the count after just about every pitch. Kills your theory.
1. It's not a theory, it's a practice.

2. Are you suggesting that all umpires should give the count after every pitch? Sounds like you are.

3. Brand new umpires need a little direction on when to give the count or else they just might be popping it up on every pitch.
3rd and 5th is easy to remember, effecient and quite appropriate. Certainly not the dumbest suggestion on the board
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Old Sun May 25, 2008, 01:57pm
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One thing I thought of, and I teach to others, is on a check swing appeal, I verbalize "that's a strike/ball" whatever the case may be. then I immediately give the count again. My feeling is that you have your partners back and demonstrate control of the game.
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Old Sun May 25, 2008, 07:43pm
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One thing I thought of, and I teach to others, is on a check swing appeal, I verbalize "that's a strike/ball" whatever the case may be. then I immediately give the count again. My feeling is that you have your partners back and demonstrate control of the game.

???????? What ???????
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Old Sun May 25, 2008, 09:50pm
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???????? What ???????
2-1 count ,check swing appeal.

Me: John, did he go?
John: Yes, he went.
Me: That's a strike. 2 balls, 2 strikes

Anything else?
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Old Sun May 25, 2008, 10:14pm
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2-1 count ,check swing appeal.

Me: John, did he go?
John: Yes, he went.
Me: That's a strike. 2 balls, 2 strikes

Anything else?
This is just proper mechanics, nothing more.

The line is, "Then it's a strike."

No point in reiterating the ball call, though, since it's what you called in the first place.
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Old Mon May 26, 2008, 10:18am
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2-1 count ,check swing appeal.

Me: John, did he go?
John: Yes, he went.
Me: That's a strike. 2 balls, 2 strikes

Anything else?
Oh, ok. I was reading it as though you were the BU, thats why I was confused.

I agree.
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