NFHS and MLB/OBR balk rule and the hidden ball play.

[bluezebra]

"Are you crying? There is no crying in baseball."

Anyone who believes that, never saw the picture of Enos Slaughter in the St. Louis Cardinals clubhouse when he was told he had been traded to the New York Yankees.

Bob

[CO ump]

Originally Posted by UMP25

OK, this has got to be one of the best examples of FED's rule silliness. "Approximately" 5 feet??? Now how the hell am I gonna determine that? Do I haul out a yardstick--oops, that's 2 feet short--or measuring tape? Can they make it any LESS definitive?

"Approximately" is good. If they only said 5 feet then you'd need the tape.
Approximately means you use your judgement and you have lots of leeway.

[TussAgee11]

Originally Posted by UMP25

OK, this has got to be one of the best examples of FED's rule silliness. "Approximately" 5 feet??? Now how the hell am I gonna determine that? Do I haul out a yardstick--oops, that's 2 feet short--or measuring tape? Can they make it any LESS definitive?

Well, how high is high on the IFF rule. How imminent is imminent on INT at the plate?

At least they are giving us a number... what if they just said "near the pitcher's plate". That would be even more confusing.

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

Well, how high is high on the IFF rule. How imminent is imminent on INT at the plate?

At least they are giving us a number... what if they just said "near the pitcher's plate". That would be even more confusing.

"Approximately 5 feet" is quite different from "high" in the Infield Fly Rule scenario.

[aceholleran]

Had a beef on a successful HBT (for defense!) in LL this year. LL uses MLB rules, and F1 was not anywhere near the slab, much less toeing or straddling it. Ole Uncle Acey made sure of this as R1 wandered off 1B and F3 tigged 'im.


Ace in CT

[PeteBooth]

[QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

After the defensive conference was over F1 took a position on the mound behind the pitcher's plate (PP) but did not engage the PP. F6 and F4 were jumping around second base but R1 remained in contact with second base. By the look on F1 face, I could tell that he did not want to engage the PP. Since F1 was not in contact with the PP I could not make the ball live.

Since there was TIME and F1 needs the ball on the pitcher's plate to make it live again IMO get the game moving and say something along the lines of

"Pitch get the ball and let's play"

In other words do not simply allow the defense to try something that can't be done and waste time.

Pete Booth