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Old Fri May 16, 2008, 09:17am
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Thanks Rei. I just hope I do as well as last year's plate guy.

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Old Fri May 16, 2008, 09:42am
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Congrats, Tim! You work two man for the play offs?
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Old Fri May 16, 2008, 09:59am
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Congratulations, Tim! Give 'em HELL!
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Old Fri May 16, 2008, 10:06am
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Attaboy, Tim C !!
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Old Fri May 16, 2008, 10:11am
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my thought initially as well but after reading it again i think that their association (portland) got two slots in it out of the three or four and he was one of those two
3 man throughout the playoffs, including the state championship game in Oregon.

Our association gets 2 of those 3 spots every year because we service about 2/3 of the top classification teams in the state.
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Old Fri May 16, 2008, 11:38am
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WOW, one association puts 2 out of the 3 umpires in the top game every year! where do we sign up?
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Old Fri May 16, 2008, 11:51am
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Congrats Tim... and thanks for the FED updates you give us throughout the year.
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Old Fri May 16, 2008, 01:33pm
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WOW, one association puts 2 out of the 3 umpires in the top game every year! where do we sign up?
Hey, we also have a guy in the next level down, and a guy on the next level down from that. So, at least 4 guys every year from our association, and about every 4th or 5th year, we send a 5th umpire!

In the old days, the top game circulated amongst associations throughout the state. So, we used to send a whole crew, but only did that once every 4 years or so. I like this new system where you send the number of guys based upon how many of the schools you service at that level in the state. That also means that associations that only serve lower level schools don't have an umpire slot except at the level they service. Our association is by and far the largest in the state, and we service all levels for the 75 or so high schools we service.

It is indeed a very big honor to be selected to do the top level game! Generally speaking, only umpires with collegiate experience get the top two levels now.
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Old Tue May 20, 2008, 08:35am
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Hey, we also have a guy in the next level down, and a guy on the next level down from that. So, at least 4 guys every year from our association, and about every 4th or 5th year, we send a 5th umpire!

In the old days, the top game circulated amongst associations throughout the state. So, we used to send a whole crew, but only did that once every 4 years or so. I like this new system where you send the number of guys based upon how many of the schools you service at that level in the state. That also means that associations that only serve lower level schools don't have an umpire slot except at the level they service. Our association is by and far the largest in the state, and we service all levels for the 75 or so high schools we service.

It is indeed a very big honor to be selected to do the top level game! Generally speaking, only umpires with collegiate experience get the top two levels now.
By "top level" do you mean the largest schools? We have five classifications, and working the final in any of them is an equal honor. By the time you get to the finals, all teams are fairly equal in talent, and, as a matter of fact, one of the smallest schools is currently ranked 1st overall in the state.

Why require college experience in a high school game? I meet that requirement, but I have some high school partners who are very, very good (better than some of my college partners), but do not have the time to devote to college ball.

Why exclude an umpire from working a classification just because he does not work that classification during the regular season? Are the rules different?
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Old Tue May 20, 2008, 10:42am
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By "top level" do you mean the largest schools? We have five classifications, and working the final in any of them is an equal honor. By the time you get to the finals, all teams are fairly equal in talent, and, as a matter of fact, one of the smallest schools is currently ranked 1st overall in the state.

Why require college experience in a high school game? I meet that requirement, but I have some high school partners who are very, very good (better than some of my college partners), but do not have the time to devote to college ball.

Why exclude an umpire from working a classification just because he does not work that classification during the regular season? Are the rules different?
Classification, level...pick your term. BUT, after our re-classification alignment last year, it was pretty obvious that "playing level" comes into play, because many teams that could not play for a winning record in the old system are now some of the top teams in their new, and LOWER classification. So, indeed, the higher the classification, or "level", generally speaking, the better the baseball. I seriously doubt that the teams of lower classifications can beat the teams at higher classifications when it comes down to the state championship game.

I never said college experienced was required to work the top level state championship game, and Tim C getting the call this year proves that! It is highly unlikely that the 3rd on his crew will have college experience because I am not aware of anybody from the area the 3rd is coming from that has done college. Please read my post. I stated that usually, only college umpires are selected for the top level game. The obvious answer to your question though is that generally speaking, the college umpires are much better umpires. Indeed, we have a "few" guys (really, maybe 3 or 4 out of 154) in our association who are quite good enough for college, but don't have the time and/or commitment to work that level.

Why require that you work the level that you will work in a championship game? Hey, I don't know how it is in your state, but here, we have little dinky associations that have maybe 15 guys, who service maybe 4 schools, all of them the lowest classification schools. The bottom line is this: The baseball at those schools is nowhere as good as the top classification schools play. The high levels play harder, faster, and with far more skill! I would be VERY nervous with having a partner who does not have regular experience at that level working with me on the biggest game of the year, and frankly, the teams deserve guys that have a COMMAND of doing that level, not a guy who is used to seeing slower, less skilled baseball. Frankly, the JV teams at the top classification schools can usually beat up on the lower classification varsity teams all day long. I certainly do not want a JV umpire working with me on a state championship game.

Sorry you misunderstood what I posted earlier. Nobody else seems to have.

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Old Fri May 16, 2008, 02:24pm
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WOW, one association puts 2 out of the 3 umpires in the top game every year! where do we sign up?
Of the 10 or so associations in the state, PDX gets 2 slots because of the population with the others rotating through. The associations nominate who goes. It's similar for all sports. Does take the politics out of it (sort of).

Tim, is it one crew of 3 working all classes? Salem or Portland this year?
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Old Fri May 16, 2008, 03:07pm
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Tim, is it one crew of 3 working all classes? Salem or Portland this year?
Yes. Championship games are at Volcano Stadium in Salem/Kaiser.
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Old Fri May 16, 2008, 12:13pm
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my thought initially as well but after reading it again i think that their association (portland) got two slots in it out of the three or four and he was one of those two
Ah good point, I just need to read it better.
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