13 yr old has heart attack rounding the bases

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

Does anyone think it is bad practice as an umpire to give this kid CPR if you are trained and certified?

You're a worthless pantload if you DON'T give this kid CPR.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by kylejt

You're a worthless pantload if you DON'T give this kid CPR.

If you don't know how to give CPR, then I completely disagree.

[JR12]

Most states have some sort of Good samaritan law. In MD if you are not a professional care provider and you are trying to help you are not liable except for cases of GROSS negligence.
I am an EMT and CPR certified, so in a case like this would be required to act. Luckily I havent run into anything life threatning, so if some ice, bandages or stitches are all the player needs I stand back and let the coaches and parents take care of things. I may give my advice and usally reccomend a DR or ER visit.
Most 911 centers have an EMT or Paramedic on duty to tell people what to do and how to give CPR until help arrives. If your not trained, doing something is better that doing nothing.

[wmblue]

Originally Posted by JR12

Most 911 centers have an EMT or Paramedic on duty to tell people what to do and how to give CPR until help arrives. If your not trained, doing something is better that doing nothing.

This is not exactly true. The person that is trained to dispense pre-arrival medically approved advice may be an EMT-I but in most cases is Emergency Medical Dispatcher, a person who has been trained in being able to give out basic medical support in a time-life critical emergency.

There is a national standard and requirement that dispatchers are trained in dispensing Emergency Medical instructions.

I am a Public Safety Communications Officer and Emergency Medical Dispatcher/EMD Instructor by profession and welcome your questions on the situation.

As others have said in the rest of the thread, if you are trained to respond to a situation and you do not provide that aid you are putting yourself into more trouble then by rendering assistance.

[JR12]

Originally Posted by wmblue

This is not exactly true. The person that is trained to dispense pre-arrival medically approved advice may be an EMT-I but in most cases is Emergency Medical Dispatcher, a person who has been trained in being able to give out basic medical support in a time-life critical emergency.

There is a national standard and requirement that dispatchers are trained in dispensing Emergency Medical instructions.

I am a Public Safety Communications Officer and Emergency Medical Dispatcher/EMD Instructor by profession and welcome your questions on the situation.

As others have said in the rest of the thread, if you are trained to respond to a situation and you do not provide that aid you are putting yourself into more trouble then by rendering assistance.

Mabe not everywhere, but a Paramedic is on duty 24-7 in the 911 center where I am affiliated.

[ozzy6900]

In the instance of a heart attack, and not a simple injury.

If the trainer or coaches are handling the emergency, I would step back (being an ex-EMT/Firefighter), make sure that someone has contacted 911 then take note of everything that is being done. This in case the worst happens and an investigation would follow. I would be able to bear witness that all the prober procedures were followed.

If no one is doing anything or there was no one trained in CPR, I would be there to help the kid as best as my condition would allow (heart condition of my own).

[kylejt]

I still stand by my response, perhaps you misread the question.

Originally Posted by TussAgee11
Does anyone think it is bad practice as an umpire to give this kid CPR if you are trained and certified?

I wasn't calling him out, just anyone who might think it was a "bad practice".

If you are trained and certified, and balk at giving aid to a child in need of heart resuscitation, you are a walking waste of space. A kid's heart has stopped beating, you know how to save him, and you're going to let some dopey umpire association (probably the same one that requires you to wear a hat under your helmet) tell you to stand by?

My question to the group: If you have the training, like me, why would you even think about not helping?

[RPatrino]

The answer is simple, if you are CPR trained,step in and assist in anyway you can. If not, you don't.