Fed. HBP

[JJ]

In Illinois we get to decide if the batter freezes because he wanted to get hit by the pitch or because he was fooled by the pitch. It's called umpiring.

JJ

[etn_ump]

If the pitcher can't keep from throwing the ball in the batter's box and it hits the batter, if I am behind the plate, the batter is going to first.

[UmpJM]

I find myself in agreement with Tim and etn_ump.

If the pitcher throws a pitch in the batter's box, the batter is getting ALL the "benefit of the doubt".

As JJ suggests, it's at least theoretically possible that a batter could do something that would "keep him in the box" - but that would be the exception rather than the rule.

JM

[David B]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

I find myself in agreement with Tim and etn_ump.

If the pitcher throws a pitch in the batter's box, the batter is getting ALL the "benefit of the doubt".

As JJ suggests, it's at least theoretically possible that a batter could do something that would "keep him in the box" - but that would be the exception rather than the rule.

JM

I think JJ said it best, we have to umpire. That's what we are there for.

You will know it when player does not attempt to avoid the pitch, so will everyone else in the park.

Umpire the game, don't make it too difficult.

I'm sure FED has a reason for the change, probably because umpires were not calling the obvious ones.

Thansk
David

[mbyron]

I will add this for newer umpires: if you have ANY doubt whatever about whether to award 1B, you should award the base. Everyone expects HBP to go to 1B, and you've to to sell the call to make him stay. The expected call is not always the right one, but you'd better be sure you're right.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by mbyron

I will add this for newer umpires: if you have ANY doubt whatever about whether to award 1B, you should award the base. Everyone expects HBP to go to 1B, and you've to to sell the call to make him stay. The expected call is not always the right one, but you'd better be sure you're right.

I'll correct this for new umpires. If you have a breaking ball or a moving fasball, award the HBP; if not, especially with the teaching of crowding the plate, put that batter back in the box with:

"No, back in the box!"

When I played, it was no big deal to let a pitch slide an inch or so off your jersey, under the arm, w/e. MOF, it was a guage of how we were reading pitches and a "in your face" to the pitcher who might be trying to intimidate.

Level of ball dictates how you handle HBP but at the higher levels, veryone knows what's happening and if you get ajackass trying to play possum with HBP, put his pssarse back in thebox.

Kudos to Interested Dump who taught me this,

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by etn_ump

If the pitcher can't keep from throwing the ball in the batter's box and it hits the batter, if I am behind the plate, the batter is going to first.

Hallo Rocky Top!

The box is tight to the plate, pitcher has rights to toss off the plate, B's like to take more space than they deserve sometimes.

Careful with this set in concrete attitude, real baseball is never set in anayh concrete

[DG]

I got a new one for new and old. Pitch is inside, doesn't matter if curve, fastball, knuckle ball, or whatever. Batter doesn't move AT ALL, no duck, squat, shoulder turn, twitch, etc. No movement whatsover, NADA. These guys stay in the box, along with the ones that lean into a pitch. I promise it is less than 0.1% of the at bats you will see, but the batter must make an effort to do SOMETHING in FED. A frozen statue goes to 1B in NCAA, in FED he should stay in the box.

[Interested Ump]

Originally Posted by DG

I got a new one for new and old.

I seriously doubt that you do but go ahead......

Pitch is inside, doesn't matter if curve, fastball, knuckle ball, or whatever.

Yes, it most positively does matter.

Batter doesn't move AT ALL, no duck, squat, shoulder turn, twitch, etc. No movement whatsover, NADA. These guys stay in the box, along with the ones that lean into a pitch. I promise it is less than 0.1% of the at bats you will see, but the batter must make an effort to do SOMETHING in FED. A frozen statue goes to 1B in NCAA, in FED he should stay in the box.

There is a thread called "Intelligence and Flexibility".

Read it.

[etn_ump]

Originally Posted by fitump56

Hallo Rocky Top!

The box is tight to the plate, pitcher has rights to toss off the plate, B's like to take more space than they deserve sometimes.

Careful with this set in concrete attitude, real baseball is never set in anayh concrete

Thanks for the Hallo, Go Big Orange!

Anyway, I stand by my previous statement. If the batter doesn't cause himself to be hit, if the ball's in the box, the batter's going to first.