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Old Sun Feb 10, 2008, 06:18pm
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Bob, I know that on (the line) is in and that's the question I wanted to ask. Our association seems to push preventative umpiring (I know others do not). I wanted to see if this fell under preventative umpiring. Thank you.
Yes this would definitely fall under the preventative category.

And Kyle is correct, while having only part of your foot out of the box is an illegal starting position, as long as part of your foot is in the box when you make contact with the ball, you're ok (pro interpretation at least, not positive if it differs in high school).
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2008, 10:01pm
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Yes this would definitely fall under the preventative category.

And Kyle is correct, while having only part of your foot out of the box is an illegal starting position, as long as part of your foot is in the box when you make contact with the ball, you're ok (pro interpretation at least, not positive if it differs in high school).
It is the same in HS. The only difference would be the foot touching the plate, which is open to interpretation. OBR says that the entire foot has to be out of the box - so you could be touching the plate with your toes/ball of the foot and have your heel in the box (legal). FED says you're out for touching the plate. Open to interp as to completely out or stricly "just touching the plate." In a FED game though, I do call it "by the book" if I see it (but I'd have to have more than the toe just touching the black).

To answer with the OP - no I wouldn't tell them they are on the line. I would tell them if they are out of the box (rather "not in a legal position").
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2008, 11:55pm
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..(but I'd have to have more than the toe just touching the black).
Um, the black isn't part of the plate, so I'd hope you'd never call that.
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Old Mon Feb 11, 2008, 08:50am
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Open to interp as to completely out or stricly "just touching the plate."
It's not really open to interp. In FED and NCAA either being completely out of the box OR touching the plate results in an illegally batted ball.
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Old Mon Feb 11, 2008, 11:59am
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It's not really open to interp. In FED and NCAA either being completely out of the box OR touching the plate results in an illegally batted ball.
That's the way I read it. I have heard discussion on it (mainly from people that only call OBR).

I agree with your comment completely.
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