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Old Tue Jan 22, 2008, 02:53am
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Tim was addressing how FED explained the rule in its online clinic. Have you seen that powerpoint presentation? If so, do you believe that there is any deviation in FED's powerpoint from FED's rulebook?

Also, if you have seen it, has your state edited any of the text? Some states do and do not report that they have done so to the "average" umpires taking the clinic.
Garth,

What I do have is more of a photocopy of the NFHS PowerPoint presentation done by Kyle McNeely. He was at the state clinic this weekend and he talked about 2008 rule changes and he did the three and four man mechanics clinic. I have photocopies of that PowerPoint presentation also.

I'm quite certain that the handouts are the same as on these two powerpoint presentations. I doubt if any of the text was edited since Kyle was the one presenting his own PowerPoint presentation. It was quite good really and the text was very information. Kyle did a good job on his presentation, also.

The way Kyle described trainwreck pretty much summed up Tee's definition also. No deviation from the PowerPoint to rule book.
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Old Tue Jan 22, 2008, 03:24am
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Pray your state doesn't permit protests during the regular season, 'cause this is going to be a nightmare.

As I see this from the early view, there are three major problems:

1. Any time a throw is least bit off line runners are going to crash fielders in an attempt to draw an obstruction call and in most cases are going to succeed.

2. Every close tag play the offense is going to scream "He didn't give my runner access blue!".

3. Far too many simple train wrecks will result in obstruction calls and ejections. "He knocked my runner down blue. That just HAS to be an ejection! You eject my runner if he causes it".

Poorly worded rule, poorly worded and inconstant interpretation = disaster.

Better Fed to have copied NCAA or Little League on this. Both rules work and are very simple to understand and enforce.
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Old Tue Jan 22, 2008, 10:01am
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Socal, you assume that the coach's will read the rules this year. Most don't even know the difference between interference and obstruction, and they will argue both in this situation.

In the play described, the 'train wreck' caused by F3 being pulled wide of the base and a collision occurs, if the BR while on the ground tags first, do we trully have a 'train wreck' no call situation?
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Old Tue Jan 22, 2008, 05:47pm
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Better Fed to have copied NCAA or Little League on this. Both rules work and are very simple to understand and enforce.
The FED IS using the NCAA rule. If you're unclear about the way the FED has printed out their material, read the NCAA material on this rule. They have the same rule.

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Old Tue Jan 22, 2008, 06:26pm
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JJ,

it's not how the rule is written it's how FED is choosing to interpret it. Using the simple bad throw/train wreck is obstruction example - this is in no way the same as NCAA.
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