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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 03:51pm
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What are some of things I can expect fans say to annoy umpires during critical moments of a tight game?
Love those surprises, that lead to a good laugh ...
Any of the following:

Myths about Baseball and Softball:

1. The hands are considered part of the bat.
2. The batter-runner must turn to his right after over-running first base.
3. If the batter breaks his wrists when swinging, it’s a strike.
4. If a batted ball hits the plate first, it’s a foul ball. The plate is in fair territory.
5. The batter cannot be called out for interference if he is in the batter’s box.
6. The ball is dead on a foul tip.
7. The batter may not switch batter’s boxes after two strikes.
8. The batter who batted out of order is the person declared out.
9. The batter may not overrun first base when he gets a walk.
10. It is an automatic strike to the batter if he squares to bunt and does not pull the bat back when the pitch crosses the plate.
11. The batter is out if a bunted ball hits the ground and bounces back and hits the bat while the batter is holding the bat.
12. The batter is out if his foot touches the plate.
13. The batter-runner is always out if he runs outside the running lane after a bunted ball. 14. A runner is out if he slaps hands or high-fives other players, after a home run is hit over the fence.
15. The runner gets the base he’s going to, plus one on a ball thrown out-of-play.
16. Anytime a coach touches a runner, the runner is out.
17. Runners may never run the bases in reverse order.
18. The runner must always slide when the play is close.
19. The runner is always safe when hit by a batted ball while touching a base. Rules
20. A runner is out if he runs out of the baseline to avoid a fielder who is fielding a batted ball.
21. Runners may not advance when an in field fly is called.
22. No run can score when a runner is called out for the third out for not tagging up.
23. A pitch that bounces to the plate cannot be hit.
24. The batter does not get first base if hit by a pitch after it bounces.
25. If a fielder holds a fly ball for 2 seconds it’s a catch.
26. You must tag the base with your foot on a force out or appeal.
27. The ball is always immediately dead on an illegal pitch or catcher’s interference.
28. If a player’s feet are in fair territory when the ball is touched, it is a fair ball.
29. The ball must always be returned to the pitcher before an appeal can be made.
30. With no runners on base, it is a ball if the pitcher starts his windup and then stops.
31. If a fielder catches a fly ball and then falls over the fence, it is a homerun.
32. The ball is dead anytime the ball hits an umpire.
33. The home plate umpire can overrule the other umpires at anytime.
34. The batter is out for throwing the bat. (no such rule in the book)

Saw these on another forum.
http://www.swpll.org/library/documen...Game_Myths.pdf
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Old Thu Jan 24, 2008, 05:00pm
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Any of the following:

Myths about Baseball and Softball:

9. The batter may not overrun first base when he gets a walk.

Saw these on another forum.
http://www.swpll.org/library/documen...Game_Myths.pdf
Be careful about how this is stated. It can be interpreted two ways - one is a myth and the other isn't.

Last I saw in FED rules, if a batter-runner reaches first on a BB and overruns the base he can be legally tagged out. He is only entitled to the base.

That said, a BB is still a live ball and a runner can run past first base and try for second in an attempt to draw a throw.

No big deal as long as whoever reads it interprets it the same way as the person who wrote it.
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Old Thu Jan 24, 2008, 06:42pm
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Early in '07 I had a player on a Quebec Men's team refer to me as a "****ing Anglo" in french which had to be by far the most annoying thing said to me by far.

In the 3 other stiches.

A- He's done....Would've been warned after the first one.

B- If he said it so only I heard it, I would respond "Have him find it and he will get it." If it is said so that everyone can hear it definite warning. If he is grandstanding while doing it he's done.

C- If only I hear it, I would probably laugh and say "maybe that is why you aren't a head coach" very quietly. If it is loud usually, if the head coach doesn't have the same mindset the head coach will deal with it no questions asked. If he doesn't he is done.
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2008, 09:08am
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Remembering another one...

Last summer, adult men's league (which, by the way usually goes pretty smoothly around here. The league president reads them the riot act before before the season and they are generally well behaved).

Tying run on third. Batter hits a pop foul near the third base dugout. F5 heads over, balances himself against the fence, keeping both feet in play, leans through an opening in the fence, makes the catch, then tumbles into dead ball area.

Plate umpire kills it, calls the out and awards R3 home.

Defensive coach erupts, team erupts, various knuckleheads charge my partner. Coach claims that "the umpire in our last game didn't call it like that" (a dumb statement in itself, but not the one I'm getting at). I get everybody away from my partner in quick fashion and we get the game moving along again.

I trot back out to "C" (there was another runner) and the shorstop is still looking agitated. He comments to me, "Man, that is the stupidest F***ing rule I've ever heard!".

Me: "Yeah, it's such a stupid rule that it's only been in the rule books since about 1903".
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2008, 10:05am
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Be careful about how this is stated. It can be interpreted two ways - one is a myth and the other isn't.

Last I saw in FED rules, if a batter-runner reaches first on a BB and overruns the base he can be legally tagged out. He is only entitled to the base.

That said, a BB is still a live ball and a runner can run past first base and try for second in an attempt to draw a throw.

No big deal as long as whoever reads it interprets it the same way as the person who wrote it.
Be careful. While you cannot overrun first (no try for 2B) on a walk in FED, you can in OBR and NCAA.
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2008, 12:21pm
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Rich,

Thanks for the clarification.
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2008, 12:35pm
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Be careful. While you cannot overrun first (no try for 2B) on a walk in FED, you can in OBR and NCAA.
Rich,

Are you saying that, in Fed, if the catcher does not like the ball four call and is discussing it with the PU, the batter/runner cannot try for 2nd?
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2008, 12:50pm
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Rich,

Are you saying that, in Fed, if the catcher does not like the ball four call and is discussing it with the PU, the batter/runner cannot try for 2nd?

No. I was commenting on the "overrun" like on a ground ball, with the runner making no attempt to go to 2B. In FED if the runner overruns on a BB he is in jeopardy of being put out. In OBR and NCAA he is not.
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2008, 12:53pm
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Rich,

Are you saying that, in Fed, if the catcher does not like the ball four call and is discussing it with the PU, the batter/runner cannot try for 2nd?
An intentional base on balls is a dead ball in FED. The walk is requested by the coach, time is called and the batter is sent to 1st. When ball four is pitched the ball remains live.
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 10:53pm
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The most annoying thing to hear ? A former member of our association, who's
plate meeting consisted of " Now coaches, this is how I do things...", followed
closely by "You won't do this, you can't do that...." blah, blah blah.
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 11:08pm
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How can you make that call?

How can you make that call?!?
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Old Tue Jan 22, 2008, 04:14am
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I just turn the hearing aids off. Smooth quiet games always
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Old Tue Jan 22, 2008, 03:55pm
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Phrase not allowed on the field

I don't allow anyone on the field to use the phrase "Call it both ways, Blue!"

That phrase strongly implies that I am favoring the other team, and fundamentally, it questions my integrity. When I hear anyone on the bench say that, I give the coach a warning, and let him know that a bench restriction and/or ejections will follow if I hear it again.
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Old Tue Jan 22, 2008, 04:16pm
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I don't allow anyone on the field to use the phrase "Call it both ways, Blue!"

That phrase strongly implies that I am favoring the other team, and fundamentally, it questions my integrity. When I hear anyone on the bench say that, I give the coach a warning, and let him know that a bench restriction and/or ejections will follow if I hear it again.
Boy are you strict!
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2008, 03:33pm
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Boy are you strict!
Of course I am! How loossly do you let them question YOUR integrity?
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