Would you have dumped him?

[greymule]

I still don't think I'd have tossed that kid, but it may be because I'm from the era when the coaches took care of those things. I remember well at age 13 hitting a line drive that an infielder speared and subsequently throwing my bat in frustration, and I was chewed out by the coach (and my parents that evening). But it wasn't an issue for the umpire.

So the coaches in the clip did not handle it well. Did the kid learn anything? Yes—throw your helmet again when you don't like the call.

[bobbybanaduck]

Originally Posted by greymule

I remember well at age 13 hitting a line drive that an infielder speared and subsequently throwing my bat in frustration, and I was chewed out by the coach (and my parents that evening). But it wasn't an issue for the umpire.

there's a big diffeerence between throwing your bat in frustration, and throwing your bat in frustration over an umpire's call.

[GarthB]

Would you have dumped him?

Yep.

Not only did he throw his helmet agains the fence in an obvious reaction to the umpire's call, he f0llwed that with throwing his hat.

I don't work little boy ball, but I always see those who do post that this is a "learning league." In that regard, this young man has something to learn: his behavior is unacceptable and the proper consequence is an ejection.

[D-Man]

My first instinct was to say no. The helmet and hat disposal was away from the action and, not being a mind reader, could have been dissapointment in making an out. There seemed to be nothing said to either umpire. No one came out to argue what appeared to be a missed call. The sound of the ball hitting the mitt is clearly after the batter-runner had past first base.

More thought, which I wouldn't have had time for, leads me toward a yes vote. We've got rules support for an EJ here. He clearly "deliberately threw...his helmet" (and hat) which NFHS 3-3-1m says calls for an ejection without warning. It is undoubtedly an unsportsmanlike act under any code. Regardless of the reason for the equipment throw, it's not a proper way to react.

This play is why we get paid. Even though the defense clearly got away with one, I would expect the defensive coach to come out and argue why the batter-runner wasn't ejected. He may have had one of his kids ejected for the very same thing. It's actually protestable under NFHS law. Are you going to say BR did NOT intentionally throw his helmet?

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[bossman72]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Not only did he throw his helmet agains the fence in an obvious reaction to the umpire's call, he f0llwed that with throwing his hat.

Amen! He threw it in protest of the umpire's call which SHOULD be an ejection at all levels.

Now, if he was out by a good bit and threw it down in frustration at himself (and it's obviously at himself) i may give him a warning since it obviously wasn't thrown in protest of my call.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by bossman72

Amen! He threw it in protest of the umpire's call which SHOULD be an ejection at all levels.

Now, if he was out by a good bit and threw it down in frustration at himself (and it's obviously at himself) i may give him a warning since it obviously wasn't thrown in protest of my call.

OK. I was keeping my big rat mouth shut up until this bit of "logic".

If the play was close it was an obvious reaction to the call but if it wasn't close it was obviously not?

Just how much experience do you have managing kids baseball?

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

If the play was close it was an obvious reaction to the call but if it wasn't close it was obviously not?

Why would the reaction be toward my call if it was obvious he was out? I don't understand your confusion...