Would you have dumped him?

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Fed has the dugout restriction but that's about it.

This works for coaches who go a little over the top, not for players. You either eject, or you don't. I see we have some umps that are "trigger happy".

"Elephant hunters" at kiddie ball. Rat is such an ugly word.

[batboy22]

This is an easy ejection!

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

This works for coaches who go a little over the top, not for players. You either eject, or you don't. I see we have some umps that are "trigger happy".

"Elephant hunters" at kiddie ball. Rat is such an ugly word.

Any coach that condones a youth player throwing equipment over an umpire's call is a rat.

And the kid will learn from his ejection.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

I see we have some umps that are "trigger happy".

Have you had an ejection yet?


Tim.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

Have you had an ejection yet?

Not today, but the day ain't over yet........

[jicecone]

WOW

I have to admit my original thought was to call the police and have the kid hauled off to jail for assaulting city property but I figured 15 years to life just might not be harsh enough penalty.

Mabey we should just take the kidd out back and put a bullet to his head, that will fix his ***.

I usually officiated by the simple rule that "No body came to watch me" but, its quite obvious that I am in the minority.

You guys have got to be shting me. Do you go home and beat the wife and kids into a blivy for not talking the right way to you also?

GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSES

This is a game, if you think your dictorial method of officiating is going to teach this kidd anything. YOU ARE SOOOOOOOOOO WRONG.

The only message you are sending is it is ok to blow things out of proportion and be a hardass.

While your on your high horse also go out and yell at your partner for blowing the call and embarrase the hell out of him.

Heck, he has got to learn some how and being the great teacher out there, why not take care of all the problems at one time.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by jicecone

WOW

I have to admit my original thought was to call the police and have the kid hauled off to jail for assaulting city property but I figured 15 years to life just might not be harsh enough penalty.

Mabey we should just take the kidd out back and put a bullet to his head, that will fix his ***.

I usually officiated by the simple rule that "No body came to watch me" but, its quite obvious that I am in the minority.

You guys have got to be shting me. Do you go home and beat the wife and kids into a blivy for not talking the right way to you also?

GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSES

This is a game, if you think your dictorial method of officiating is going to teach this kidd anything. YOU ARE SOOOOOOOOOO WRONG.

The only message you are sending is it is ok to blow things out of proportion and be a hardass.

While your on your high horse also go out and yell at your partner for blowing the call and embarrase the hell out of him.

Heck, he has got to learn some how and being the great teacher out there, why not take care of all the problems at one time.

You might want to try switching to decaf.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by jicecone

WOW


I usually officiated by the simple rule that "No body came to watch me" but, its quite obvious that I am in the minority.

(Remainder of post edited as it only contained exaggerations that had nothing to do with the play.)

This is the first time I've seen an umpire whine as much as a coach.

Properly ejecting a player, as in this instance, has nothing to do with who the fans are looking at, it has to do with doing your job so someone else doesn't have to.

Your post leans toward the old bullsh!t about the best umpire being the invisible umpire. What utter nonsense. Sometimes doing your job make you visible.

[bobbybanaduck]

Originally Posted by jicecone

GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSES

get off your rocking horse and do your job.

[BigUmp56]

I specifically posed the question for a youth game for a reason. In an upper level game (college and above) I don't see where a reaction like this would warrant an ejection. But for HS on down this is a no brainer to me.

I'm surprised that you'd allow a player at this level to throw sh1t while still on the field and not run him, jice. Allowing him to do this without an ejection just leaves a mess for the next crew working one of his games to clean up.


Tim.

[bobbybanaduck]

it's a pretty easy ej in pro ball, tim. short ej report, too, which is always nice.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck

it's a pretty easy ej in pro ball, tim. short ej report, too, which is always nice.

During my visit to Arizona this summer I saw Matt toss a runner who threw his helmet down on home plate after Matt called him out on a tag by the catcher about three feet up the third baseline.

Matt's comment to me was the same as yours..."Easy ejection, short report."

[ncump7]

Even if he was frustrated, he can not throw two pieces of equipment and stay in the game. Easy ej. Most players ejected are due to frustration. I have ejected none for being overly happy.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

I specifically posed the question for a youth game for a reason. In an upper level game (college and above) I don't see where a reaction like this would warrant an ejection. But for HS on down this is a no brainer to me.

I think we get ourselves in trouble when we have this black and white, all or nothing philosophies on these kinds of things. I am sure I would likely eject, but some other things my change my opinion. Is the coach taking care of it immediately? Did the player say anything to me directly after or before he throws his helmet? Was this kid a problem during other parts of the game? I like to let players and coaches hang themselves to the point I throw them. Maybe it is the football and basketball official in me but I like the fact I can warn before I have to file paper work.

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

I'm surprised that you'd allow a player at this level to throw sh1t while still on the field and not run him, jice. Allowing him to do this without an ejection just leaves a mess for the next crew working one of his games to clean up.

What the crew did before is irrelevant to me and what the crew will do behind me is irrelevant. I will not likely be around at all so that is not something I am going to concern myself with. I am only concerned with my standards for that game and that might change based on a lot of other factors I will not list right now.

Peace

[kylejt]

I'm going to retract my statement about dumping him in a heartbeat. I would have given a coach about 1.5 seconds to react to his helmet toss. If the coach want to jump him before I get a chance, so be it. One point five seconds is his window of opportunity to do so. That didn't happen in this situation, so out he goes.