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Old Fri Nov 02, 2007, 12:21pm
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I agree 100%. I would be pissed if they put a friggin asterisk on my HR record that I spent years breaking. Nobody is going to convict Bonds for anything folks, so just get that out of your heads now. Hundreds of MLB players use steroids, including many pitchers who Barry Bonds hit home runs off. Are we going to see asterisks on every one of those? I think not, so get over the fact that Barry clobbered more home runs than Aaron and everyone's golden boy Ruth.

Steroids or not, it takes a whole lot of talent to even hit a baseball, much less hit it out of stadiums against major league pitching. Steroids don't make that much difference when it comes to the hand/eye coordination and other batting skills.

Do you really think most people who are in the "asterix bucket" are there because they don't want Barry to break a record set by Aaron or Ruth? Or do you think they are there becasue they are anti-cheaters? I know he has not been proven guilty of knowingly cheating and to that I call BS.
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Old Fri Nov 02, 2007, 04:39pm
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The fact that Barry said he would boycott the Hall if the ball is displayed with an asterisk as all the more reason to brand it on all sides with asterisks. Keep him out of a place that he doesn't deserve to be in since he cheated.

As long as Pete Rose is banned, they should never induct another player!!
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Old Fri Nov 02, 2007, 05:08pm
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I wonder if everyone will say the same thing about Clemens and others when it's their turn to go into The Hall. It was an entire era of steroid use. The truth is we still have no idea about how widespread of a problem it was. I don't buy for a second that MLB itself wasn't aware of the problem as they tried to put the fans back in the stands, post strike of 1994. They wanted to see the ball flying out of the parks, and turned a blind eye to steroid usage. The pitchers were juicing, the hitters were juicing. Hell, I think even the bat boys were on the stuff..........


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Old Fri Nov 02, 2007, 05:28pm
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The fact that Barry said he would boycott the Hall if the ball is displayed with an asterisk as all the more reason to brand it on all sides with asterisks. Keep him out of a place that he doesn't deserve to be in since he cheated.

As long as Pete Rose is banned, they should never induct another player!!
As long as you brought it up. Pete Rose is another case of such arrogance.

Pete Rose brought his banishment upon himself. Why rewrite the rules for Mr. I Thought I Was Teflon. This is one of the few things that baseball got right.

As for Barry, he needs to remember that a certain percentage of votes from a panel of voters that generally stay the same through the years have to elect him for enshrinement into the Hall. If 2007 was his last year, he still has five years to piss off voters, or to be found guilty of cheating. Remember Marion Jones of Olympic fame? Players like Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, and Juan Gonzalez (and probably others too countless to mention) who in different eras had lead pipe Hall of Fame careers, might never see it in their lifetime, if ever at all.

Baseball doesn't need Bonds as bad as he needs baseball. The Hall of Fame will certainly not suffer one bit without him. His statements will only come back to haunt him in the future if he continues to make such stupid remarks.
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Old Fri Nov 02, 2007, 05:45pm
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Old Fri Nov 02, 2007, 07:00pm
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If I remember correctly, Rose agreed to be permanently ineligible. I don't see the comparison between Rose and Bonds on the HOF issue, as it stands today.

Regardless of whether I think Barry Bonds used steroids, I think it would show a complete and total lack of class to display a ball marked with one or many asterisks. I think it is all a non-issue at this point, though. The ball is not on display, and Bonds has not been voted into the HOF. Who's to say he doesn't make a deal in the future similar to Rose's?

I'll reserve my right to make a judgment until circumstances change.
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