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Old Fri Nov 02, 2007, 10:55am
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I agree 100%. I would be pissed if they put a friggin asterisk on my HR record that I spent years breaking. Nobody is going to convict Bonds for anything folks, so just get that out of your heads now. Hundreds of MLB players use steroids, including many pitchers who Barry Bonds hit home runs off. Are we going to see asterisks on every one of those? I think not, so get over the fact that Barry clobbered more home runs than Aaron and everyone's golden boy Ruth.

Steroids or not, it takes a whole lot of talent to even hit a baseball, much less hit it out of stadiums against major league pitching. Steroids don't make that much difference when it comes to the hand/eye coordination and other batting skills.
Hand eye coordination you either have it or you don't I agree. However, generally speaking, your stats don't improve as you age nor does your reaction time. I don't know if this is true or not but I heard that steroids improve your vision. Barry was a Hall of Famer before he started cheating.
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Old Fri Nov 02, 2007, 11:21am
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I don't know if this is true or not but I heard that steroids improve your vision.
But they shrink your balls, so I guess the trade-off is worth it to some people.

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Barry was a Hall of Famer before he started cheating.
Despite the build-up of circumstantial evidence to support this claim, he has not been convicted, nor has he ever tested positive for steroids, so it is still unproven that he cheated.
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Old Fri Nov 02, 2007, 11:46am
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nor has he ever tested positive for steroids,
That may or may not be true.

What is true is that he has never tested positive for steriods as far as the public knows.

Results of steriord tests in the past were not always made public as they have been recently.
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Old Fri Nov 02, 2007, 12:06pm
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But they shrink your balls, so I guess the trade-off is worth it to some people.



Despite the build-up of circumstantial evidence to support this claim, he has not been convicted, nor has he ever tested positive for steroids, so it is still unproven that he cheated.
We know he took steroids (he says he took it unknowingly) the clear. He claims he was told it was flax seed oil. What could a drop of flax seed oil under the tongue do for you! You're naive if you beleive he never knowingly took steroids human growth or whatever. The preponderance of evidence suggests he cheated.
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Old Fri Nov 02, 2007, 08:19pm
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We know he took steroids (he says he took it unknowingly) the clear. He claims he was told it was flax seed oil. What could a drop of flax seed oil under the tongue do for you! You're naive if you beleive he never knowingly took steroids human growth or whatever. The preponderance of evidence suggests he cheated.
Remember, there is a LIE in believe.

I did not say I believed one thing or the other, just that you're not gonna get Bonds on anything, so everyone needs to drop it. Unless of course you plan on putting asterisks on every modern player's record.

Also remember, Evian is naive spelled backward.
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Old Fri Nov 02, 2007, 08:43pm
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Remember, there is a LIE in believe.

I did not say I believed one thing or the other, just that your not gonna get Bonds on anything, so everyone needs to drop it. Unless of course you plan on putting asterisks on every modern player's record.

Also remember, Evian is naive spelled backward.
Gerg Nosredna is so evian he's sitting in a jail cell because he refuses to testify in front of a grand jury. What's he got to lose if there is nothing to hide?
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Old Fri Nov 02, 2007, 10:06pm
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Gerg Nosredna is so evian he's sitting in a jail cell because he refuses to testify in front of a grand jury. What's he got to lose if there is nothing to hide?
He has everything to gain by testifying. It sounds to me he does not mind sitting in jail to prevent a witch hunt.

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Old Fri Nov 02, 2007, 10:13pm
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He has everything to gain by testifying. It sounds to me he does not mind sitting in jail to prevent a witch hunt.

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That's it for sure. Altruism in it's purist form. Nosredna would rather give up his freedom, his ability to care for his family, his professional life, and his future for nothing more than the warm feeling he'll get from preventing "a witch hunt."

A grateful Barry down the road will be just a coincidental small bonus.
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Old Fri Nov 02, 2007, 10:01pm
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I did not say I believed one thing or the other, just that your not gonna get Bonds on anything, so everyone needs to drop it. .
I'm saving this post.
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