A Two-fer

[Rich]

Originally Posted by fitump56

F1, gone then or later? On tantrum start? With no "T"? you just screwed the pooch, you've been had. Then you toss the coach after you chased his pitcher down? You forced his hand, he had to come out on you, you're chasing his teenaged pitcher down like some crazed ape.

Who knows what you'll do next, you've already blown the ejection.

Who needs time? He came down to the plate ranting and raving. He'd be gone before reaching me. Teenager, adult, whatever. Ejection is effective at the end of playing action. Besides, in high enough level baseball, I'm happy to call time after a walk before watching everyone advance a base.

The manager would get one question: Who's the sub? If anything other than a substitute was given, the manager would go, too. I don't accept a manager tolerating or encouraging that kind of behavior from players.

Dear Moderator, thanks for deleting my post. God knows what we'd do without heavy-handed moderation.

[canadaump6]

Originally Posted by fitump56

Forgive you for what? Were watching something else than ball?




PU watched R3 X th eplat, good. Then he should have calmly ejected F1. Thats' a given.

To follow F1, allowing the coach to become the hero by stepping in between (good job Coach), was a major boo-boo.

PU didn't miss the call, up and in, LHP to LHB, on a 3 ball count with loaded, sorry, ain't gonna get it.

A competent umpre would have taken a deeep breath, made sure R3 touches, all Rs reach their bases, and with little overt action, ejected F1. If Coach isn't out of the dugout, then with "T" in place, he would inform Coach his LHP is showering.

In the first video, I'm warning the pitcher to get back on the mound, I mean I am yelling at him, and if he continues, he's gone. As for the second video, when that manager gets into my face in an attempt to belittle me, he's outta there.

[Forest Ump]

HTBT to hear what that pitcher may have said but for sure he's gone once he drew the line on the plate. He's most likely gone before he gets to me as I would have warned him to return back to his position once he came at me. Base guy should have never pushed the plate guy. Maybe plate guy was a young rookie and base guy was an old veteran.

[Andy]

I've got nothing to add to what's already been said regarding the first video.

As for the second one, I would like to see what happened that has the coach so pissed off. I know that if I really blow a call, I am expecting to take some heat for it and *may* let a coach vent a little more before taking action.


It appears that an ejection is warranted here based soley on what we see in the video, but I would like some context to the situation.

[tkaufman]

I believe that umpire is a current MiLB umpire. I forwarded the video on to a MiLB umpire in my area to see his opinion, and he offered me that information. I wonder what the umpire schools would say about the handling of this situation? If he's this scared of an amatuer coach like we deal with on a daily basis, how does he deal with it in Pro ball?